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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

What if I'm anti Israel and anti Palestine?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, fuck both sides. Indiscriminate killing is indiscriminate killing. Hamas is bad but carpet bombing hospitals isn't better.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So... why lump all of Palestine in with Hamas?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Admittedly I just realized I misread the initial post I responded to. I thought it said, you can't be pro-palistine without being pro-hamas. None the less, nobody's have are clean in this conflict.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd say the children killed by both Israeli bombings and Hamas rockets are probably pretty fuckin' clean.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Right, which is why I think both sides suck. The gray is that there is a lot more history then the last couple of weeks. None of it justifies current actions, but it's not black and white..

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why lump all Isrealites with Netanyahu policy? Its a 2 way street

[–] Deiskos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"It's NoT iSrAeL iT'S jUsT nEtAnYaHu" smells very much like "It's NoT rUsSiA iT'S jUsT pUtIn".

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago

Why stop there, it also smells like "it's not Palestine, it's just hamas."

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Then you're just an edgy misanthrope

[–] SYLOH@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A stance of "Both sides are bad" is just a stance that favors the Status Quo.
The underdog needs the extra assistance, the superior doesn't.
So for that reason I'm pro-Israel, don't want either side winning, don't want aid to either side, so that defaults to a pro-Israel stance.
I'm comfortable being labeled as such.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

bravest soul on lemmy

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Like anti Israel (government and civilians) and anti Hamas (hamas and civilians) ?

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sucks to be you???

Or great because both will suffer.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ideally nobody would suffer. Reality doesn't work that way though, but that doesn't mean I'm cool with genocide.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like to describe it as I'm not pessimistic, just a realist.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The sad truth.

Believing both sides to be deeply flawed doesn't instantly make you into someone who celebrates death!

[–] soulre4ver@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Nobody cares you gonna die like all of us and your opinion will die with you.