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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If you pay for YouTube premium, you're a clown and you're only fueling the enshittification.

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Ads are bad (I agree).

Paying for things is bad.

Then what's left? YouTube should somehow be ad free and free of cost for the user forever and ever? Who's gonna pay for the enormous costs of operating the service?

People are going to start yelling at me about capitalism and enshitiffication. Both of which cause problems, but what do you propose here? Magic?

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I propose YouTube make a MUCH better premium product and price it correctly. Paying for things is fine. Paying for things to get crappier? Na

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is YouTube getting crappier for me as a paying customer? I feel like it hasn't really changed in years.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Glad you enjoy it. Keep doing your thing. But are you seriously deaf to the rising chorus of complaints about YouTube? This thread contains many examples of youtube's enshitification over the few couple years. Your question feels disingenuous at best to me

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Name one complaint, other than blocking people with ad blockers. How has the actual product changed?

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Inability to purchase only YouTube music

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The worsening of recommendations/algorithm pointing to more crap content

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Increased family plan sharing restrictions

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The death of Google music

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Price increases

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Inability to remove shorts from homescreen (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

4k premium only (decision reversed due to consumer outcry)

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 10 months ago

I'm not opposed to paying for online services in general, I'm just not going to pay them to make the site worse with every update. (Plus I kinda categorically refuse to give Google money at this point.)

[–] MentorKitten@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

I'll still call someone a clown for paying even if I'm able to acknowledge that someone has to hold the bag. Just ain't gonna me or hopefully anyone I care about.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Youtube might be the literal most valuable site in my life, up there with Wikipedia and search engines.

A large part of my payment also goes to the channels I view.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really? I watch very little Youtube, so I'd rather not use it than pay $10+ for it. I'm currently able to block ads, so I'll watch as long as that's an option.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it has news, educational, and entertaining content. It’s a lot of value for me.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Unpopular opinion, but I also use YouTube almost exclusively.

It has my podcasts, my political livestreamers, late night shows, and multiple channels that I follow.

I also enjoy YouTube music as well.

I bought a full year, which lowers the price a little.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you watch ads instead of paying a modest fee to remove them then you're a clown. Companies do need to make money for the services they provide, I just disagree with the amount.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“Modest?” $14 a month? $5 would be modest. I literally pay less for whole as streaming services.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

I'd probably pay $5, and I'd certainly pay $2-3. But I don't watch enough to justify $10+/month.

[–] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you watch enough youtube per month to see an hour of ads and you can't block ads for some reason, you may actually be losing time/money by not paying the subscription. That said, there are ad blockers for almost every platform so it shouldn't be too difficult to find one that works.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I pay less than 5usd for a family plan, I just subscribed through a developing nation with a VPN.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which, as the article states, they are starting to end that practice.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That was my comment about the amount that should be charged. I'll happily pay $5/mo, but not $15. I'm happy to pay for services, just not the amount that many want to charge.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

They make enough off of all my data they collect. I'm not paying them a cent for anything and I'm not watching a single ad. If you want to watch ads for shareholders, you are most definitely a clown.