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The attacks claimed the lives of an Indiana woman and an Oregon man, both cisgender people.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

But why does it matter if the victims were cis people or not?

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's this delusion amongst transphobes that they can "always clock a tranny" and that they're never wrong when they decide that someone is secretly trans because they have a more prominent Adam's apple or something equally stupid. Of course the truth is that they're wrong constantly and are just idiot bigots, which this illustrates rather poignantly unfortunately. They don't really know who is or isn't trans, they just want to pretend they know so they can feel vindicated by "recognizing" trans people, and they convince themselves that trans people can never truly blend in to society. Because if trans people really were capable of being indistinguishable from cis people, then that would mean that at some point they might have, gasp, treated a trans person like a human being and used the proper pronouns. The horror.

Of course trans people shouldn't have to blend in, they shouldn't have to pass to be treated as the gender they identify as, or with basic human decency.

[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It's not just Trans people, it's people who aren't masculine or feminine enough. The bigots are fine with this.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 2 years ago

It shows how someone's irrational hatred of a specific group can also harm people not part of that group.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

All the other responses have been good but I think it helps to show to slightly more "moderate" transphobia who wouldn't kill transfolks themselves but don't think anti-trans rhetoric is that bad by showing that they themselves are also in danger.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It highlights an extra layer of stupid.

[–] Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It shows people that it's not just trans people at risk due to this violent rhetoric the right spews. Everyone is at risk of being targeted even if they are perceived as trans.

I'm a cis man, but I don't have the deepest voice, and I've been worried about this kind of thing happening for a while since I live in the south, and it looks like I was right to worry.

[–] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

It's never about one group. It's about all opposing the status quo . Fascist change targets based on what gives them power. Power over everyone.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It shows people that it’s not just trans people at risk due to this violent rhetoric the right spews. Everyone is at risk of being targeted even if they are perceived as trans.

The guy in Oregon was stabbed while defending his trans friend.

[–] Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Yes I know, I read the article. I was referring to the first incident with the perception remark, but it still makes sense to include it in the headline with the second scenario for clarity's sake