God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...
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I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.
It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.
I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.
From my understanding, they're pushing this shit on March 14th.
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Also our next lunar eclipse, at least in the USA.
Bring back ham radios.
Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...
Data packets through radio?
Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴☠️)
(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴☠️)
Unless the police do it.
Because they got a fucking licence
Us plebs don't have the privilage
Data packets through radio?
Software Defined Radio?
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Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?
EDIT: Another idea, which I'm sure they'll never consider, is to host actual @thunderbird.net email addresses which could be paid for. People at this very minute are looking for Proton Mail replacements, and this could be one of them . . .
I personally wouldn't trust them with an email service myself. They have been known to accept sponsorships through Google and as of late seems to be heading more and more in the direction of more tracking services in favor of a monetary profit. I don't trust their email service would be any different
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They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/
I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?
This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?
I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.
Exactly.
We’ve seen a little confusion about the language
Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"
The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".
I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.
Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.
The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.
Well there's already a browser on the works, verso, and it also attempts to make servo "embeddable":
We aim to explore embedding solutions for Servo
Hopefully both project reach 1.0 sooner rather than later. Meanwhile there's Librewolf at least, and there was Mull, but instead currently there's IronFox and also FrozenFennec on the works as well, all forks of Firefox oriented to privacy.
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Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.
This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.
Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)
I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords
That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.
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I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.
i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure. again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour.
It's frustrating that the last bastion of hope against total Google dominance of the browser market has no sense of direction at all and is constantly tripping over rakes.
Personally, i still belive in not giving Google market dominance but that's mainly because I want the web to thrive, and competition breeds innovation.
With that said, these ToS are making me leave FF, although I am going to Librefox and Fenec now
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I wonder how they can expect to get more users like that. Their user are privacy conscious, this is the move to lose them. I am thinking about using tor browser on android. I don't see any other alternative.
Check out Fenec
US companies are not longer trustworth
Capital is the problem, not nationality.
Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.
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That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.
Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.
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And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.
do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?
What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....
https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android
Why don't they use the official fdroid repo?
anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?
So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?
There is only firefox, chrome, or safari to chose from. I just use a firefox fork.
If you're sticking to Firefox-based browsers, Waterfox seems to be the fork closest to Firefox without being controlled by Mozilla.
I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.
Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.
https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.
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