If it's within reach of a 60 hour week then it's within reach of a 30 hour week.
This LLM copycat bullshit is never going to be it though. It's not thinking, it's looking up the answers at the back of the book.
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I highly recommend Kara Swisher's recent book "Burn Book" for insights into the Tech lads like Brin, etc, as she's known most of them since the 90s.
Really helps contextualize the crazy cocktail of engineering/commercial power with general naivety a lot of these guys have going.
"Man who works 10 hours per year tells underlings to work 60 hours per week."
Specifically, the women who report to him that he's attracted to need to spend 60 hours a week dating him.
Thanks for the input, Big Head.
So he's saying they've exhausted the pool of applicants so badly to replace that with normal work weeks, just 150% amount of Googlers or maybe 200% amount of Googlers?
Power and fame break a man. Even if he wasn't broken from the beginning.
What I learned working with Googlers. They were dorks. Big ass dorks. Who got used by women because for the first time in their lives. They were attractive to these women. So many broken marriages and divorces from cheating husbands. That they joked about at the Christmas party. It was an eye opening experience.
Who gives a fuck what Sergey brin thinks
Thought this was an Onion article!
Hey plebs! I demand you work 50% more to develop AGI so that I can replace you with robots and fire all of you and make myself a double plus plutocrat! Also, I want to buy an island, small city, Bunker, Spaceship, And/Or something.
AGI requires a few key components that no LLM is even close to.
First, it must be able to discern truth based on evidence, rather than guessing it. Can’t just throw more data at it, especially with the garbage being pumped out these days.
Second, it must ask questions in the pursuit of knowledge, especially when truth is ambiguous. Once that knowledge is found, it needs to improve itself, pruning outdated and erroneous information.
Third, it would need free will. And that’s the one it will never get, I hope. Free will is a necessary part of intelligent consciousness. I know there are some who argue it does not exist but they’re wrong.
Third, it would need free will.
I strongly disagree there. I argue that not even humans have free will, yet we're generally intelligent so I don't see why AGI would need it either. In fact, I don't even know what true free will would look like. There are only two reasons why anyone does anything: either you want to or you have to. There's obviously no freedom in having to do something but you can't choose your wants and not-wants either. You helplessly have the beliefs and preferences that you do. You didn't choose them and you can't choose to not have them either.
The human mind isn't infinitely complex. Consciousness has to be a tractable problem imo. I watched Westworld so I'm something of an expert on the matter.
I guess we don't need it then.
I don't believe a single word of this bullshit.
That might speed it up, but that certainly is not a prerequisite.
I bet it would happen faster if this guy was fired.
He can fuck all the way off.
globally
They warn us about AGI while simultaneously attempting to sell it to us.
Black PR is PR too, it's like warnings about weapons of the future and combat robots and antiutopia for many people worked as an ad, and they want that exact future.
I think it's the same with AGI. People think Skynet is cool and want Skynet, because they think it's the future.
Except it's a bit less, like real fascism doesn't look similar to Warhammer, just to a criminal district ruled by a gang, scaled for a country.
Or just hire 50% more engineers? Or wait 50% longer?
with "hire more" you do run up against the "9 women can have a baby in 1 month" limit, but in this case it's likely to help.
For how many years? Cuz y'all ain't anywhere near AGI. You can't even get generative AI to not suck compared to your competition in that market (which is a pretty low bar) lol
AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There's no thought or reasoning. They don't understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They're not presenting anything meaningful.
I feel like I have found a lone voice of sanity in a jungle of brainless fanpeople sucking up the snake oil and pretending LLMs are AI. A simple control loop is closer to AI than a stochastic parrot, as you correctly put it.
pretending LLMs are AI
LLMs are AI. There’s a common misconception about what ‘AI’ actually means. Many people equate AI with the advanced, human-like intelligence depicted in sci-fi - like HAL 9000, JARVIS, Ava, Mother, Samantha, Skynet, and GERTY. These systems represent a type of AI called AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), designed to perform a wide range of tasks and demonstrate a form of general intelligence similar to humans.
However, AI itself doesn't imply general intelligence. Even something as simple as a chess-playing robot qualifies as AI. Although it’s a narrow AI, excelling in just one task, it still fits within the AI category. So, AI is a very broad term that covers everything from highly specialized systems to the type of advanced, adaptable intelligence that we often imagine. Think of it like the term ‘plants,’ which includes everything from grass to towering redwoods - each different, but all fitting within the same category.
Here we go... Fanperson explaining the world to the dumb lost sheep. Thank you so much for stepping down from your high horse to try and educate a simple person. /s
How's insulting the people respectfully disagreeing with you working out so far? That ad-hominem was completely uncalled for.
If a basic chess engine is AI then bubble sort is too
It's not. Bubble sort is a purely deterministic algorithm with no learning or intelligence involved.
Many chess engines run on deterministic algos as well
There are at least three of us.
I am worried what happens when the bubble finally pops because shit always rolls downhill and most of us are at the bottom of the hill.
Not sure if we need that particular bubble to pop for us to be drowned in a sea of shit, looking at the state of the world right now :( But silicon valley seems to be at the core of this clusterfuck, as if all the villains form there or flock there...
That undersells them slightly.
LLMs are powerful tools for generating text that looks like something. Need something rephrased in a different style? They're good at that. Need something summarized? They can do that, too. Need a question answered? No can do.
LLMs can't generate answers to questions. They can only generate text that looks like answers to questions. Often enough that answer is even correct, though usually suboptimal. But they'll also happily generate complete bullshit answers and to them there's no difference to a real answer.
They're text transformers marketed as general problem solvers because a) the market for text transformers isn't that big and b) general problem solvers is what AI researchers are always trying to create. They have their use cases but certainly not ones worth the kind of spending they get.
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With all the rounds of layoffs they've had, their remaining employees would need to be quite stupid to give a shit what this disloyal piece trash says.
Let's work 20 hour weeks then. Who wants AGI other than war pigs and billionaires?
I mean, we could get a rogue agi take over the world. It might not even be worse lmao
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If it's in reach working 60 hour weeks, it's also in reach working 40 hour weeks, it will just take 1/3rd longer. ;)
Let's be real, it'll probably happen faster on 40 hour work weeks than 60.
lots of evidence starting to point to it'd be quicker in 32 hour weeks than 40
50%
"Work 50% longer weeks so you can make something that'll both make me richer AND cost you your jobs!" is not the motivational speech he thinks it is.
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That's why I bake my cake at 2608°C for ~1,8 minutes, it just works™
Project Manager here, and where I’m from it’s common knowledge that 9 women can have a baby in a month .
And an eager young bride can do in 7 months what takes 9 for cows and countesses.
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If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks it can be reached in 40, but nah mfs should rush to get themselves replaced
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Hahaha
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