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I've been using Linux exclusively for about 8 years. Recently I got frustrated with a bunch of issues that popped one after another. I had a spare SSD so I decided to check out Windows again. I've installed Windows 11 LTSC. It was a nightmare. After all the years on Linux, I forgot how terrible Windows actually is.

On the day I installed the system and a bunch of basic software, I had two bluescreens. I wasn't even doing anything at that time, just going through basic settings and software installation. Okay, it happens. So I installed Steam and tried to play a game I've been currently playing on Linux just to see the performance difference. And it was... worse, for some reason. The "autodetect" in game changed my settings from Ultra to High. On Linux, the game was running at the 75 fps cap all the time. Windows kept dropping them to around 67-ish a lot of times. But the weirdest part was actual power consumption and the way GPU worked. Both systems kept the GPU temperature at around 50C. But the fans were running at 100% speed at that temperature on Windows, while Linux kept them pretty quiet. I had to change the fan controls by myself on Windows just because it was so annoying. The power consumption difference was even harder to explain, as I was getting 190-210W under Linux and under Windows I got 220-250W. And mind you, under Linux I had not only higher graphical settings set up, but was also getting better performance.

I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don't even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

Today I decided to make this rant-post after yet another game crashed on me twice under Windows. I bought Watch Dogs since it's currently really cheap on Steam. I click play. I get the loading screen. The game crashed. I try again. I play through the basic "tutorial". After going out of the building, game crashed again. I'm going to play again, this time under Linux.

I've had my share of frustrations under Linux, but that experience made me realise that Windows is not a perfect solution either. Spending a lot of time with Linux and it's bugs made me forget all the bad experience in the past with Windows, and I was craving to go back to the "just works" solution. But it's not "just works". Two days was all it took for me to realize that I'll actually stick with Linux, probably forever. The spare SSD went back to my drawer, maybe so I can try something new in the future. It's so good to be back after a short trip to the other side!

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 minutes ago

i almost forget how much it sucks whenever i'm not forced to use it for a while.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 6 minutes ago

The problem with Windows is that it is not build to be parametrised. Anyone a bit tech-savy will be frustrated by the inability to tune it effectively for its need.
The problem with Linux is that it is not tech-normie friendly. Sure it has distribution easy to use and pre-parametrised so anyone with basic computer skill can use it. But people with basic computer skill don't have computers with Linux. Anyone who just want to use a computer has to first learn how to install an OS.

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 1 hour ago

Third party licensed apps are everything on Windows.

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 hour ago

I think Windows is successful because it creates a nice Enterprise environment, where companies can easily get into investing into new apps to use in their offices. I think that's why it's successful.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience as well, fedora just works more than windows. Games work and run better without crashing. No bsods. No needing to manually start drivers for my tablet and restart my DAC.

Only thing windows has is coherent one release and exclusives in terms of a few softwares. Like adobe which is a scam now.

And the second advantage will vanish with more people on linux.

[–] flork@lemy.lol 3 points 2 hours ago

My exact experience too. Fedora "just works". I especially like the immutable varieties for even more "just works (and continues to just works)-iness"

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 hours ago

Level1tech was reviewing the Ryzen 9950X/9900X and he noted how performance on Windows was wildly inconsistent depending on peculiar settings such as sidestepping security features and marking apps to run as administrator (aka also sidestepping windows security features) yet on Linux you can get better performance via Proton OOTB.

Linux has its quirks too but people kid themselves when they convince themselves that the dozens of weird tasks and apps and tweaks they make to Windows are "plug and play" compared to Linux, which in my experience has been way less tweaking.

The main tweaks I've done on linux usually include installing ROG-control-center (optional laptop faff) or cryotweaks on Steamdeck (which just sets some sensible options already enabled on most distros)

[–] itmecorban@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don’t even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

Bro wait until you want to use them for a call. How do you tell it to switch to call mode when it won't by default. Ah yeah that's right, you can't. And if you do, good luck switching it back for music when you're done. I've had friends who got bluetooth headphones and tried to use them wireless on Windows and it's just a battle every single time

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I have a wireless keyboard. It comes with its own dongle, so you can expect it to work with some generic keyboard driver. I plugged into my USB-hub, works just fine on Linux. No lag, no nothing.

On Windows? Well, it works, but the audio device I have plugged in just straight up refuses to function while the dongle is hooked up as well. It seems to gobble up pretty much the entire bandwidth. Amazing.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

You know what just works ? Bazzite. It's as easy to use as a PlayStation.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This was sorta my fault, but I'm counting it. I have been flashing meshtastic devices recently and flashed two just fine from fedora (just had to DL ungoogled chromium because fuck chrome but librewolf can't access serial ports so..), tried to flash a third from my friend's windows PC and it just would not recognize it in the serial monitor, tried for like an hour being dumb, then I remembered drivers exist, downloaded one set of drivers, couldn't install lord knows why, downloaded a second set that finally worked on a reboot and got it flashed.

I understand that sometimes you still have to install drivers on Linux too, but can we stop pretending you don't have to on windows? What's more while I was in there and edge wasn't using my serial port my friend said to install a chrome based anyway to try, and I had to find the damn download pages instead of using a package manager, philistines.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 26 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Windows sure is bad, though I haven't seen an actual blue-screen in years. That's some foul luck.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You just get forced update while you're in the middle of work and random settings resets.

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 hour ago

I had one last week because of Storage problems.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

In my experience, a stable beginner friendly distro such as mint, is 10x closer to "just working" but...

I do think that the windos DE tends to be more reliable than any linux DE I have tested. The only DE that compares is gnome, which I find very very stable (but I hate it)

I think that non-technical people are just used to a simple playbook of:

  1. GUI is rarely the issue, so you never need to see the terminal.
  2. If there is an issue, restart
  3. If that didn't work, ask for help from your local techy

And for linux step 3 usually doesn't work because your local techy is probably someone who just knows how to google and paste into cmd.

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think problems that could be solved are generic hardware compatibility. Being able to install Wi-Fi adapters and Digital Tokens easily on Linux would go a long way. I think it will get there, though.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 2 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

Wifi works great on every distro I tried

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

With a Wi-Fi adapter on Desktop?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Yes, on these distros that i remember: arch, fedora and mint

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Huh? Only DE thing not being stable for me was xfce Thunar being crashy for a while. There are unstalbe DE?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I tried Cinnamon, KDE, XFCE and gnome. The only one that I can't recall having any issues with is Gnome.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

And for linux step 3 usually ~~doesn't~~ works because your local techy is probably someone who just knows how to google and paste into ~~cmd~~ the terminal.

[–] soyboy77@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Windows bloat sucks. I wish Microsoft gave you the option to just install the components/features you're likely to use. That way you could have an agile, minimal custom installation like you do in Arch.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

I wanted to try the gamer windows distro. Aurora or atlas or whatever. Its install wanted me to manually get drivers. I wasn't feeling like doing annoying tech stuff and troubleshooting so i just got fedora instead.

[–] barret@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

like tiny11?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago

Yep, I have used Linux since 2017 after W10 just made everything slower for home use and work. I have been using W11 for work lately, and it sucks. The office16/root/vfs/ProgramFilesCommonX64(86)/office16/ai.exe and aimgr.exe keep hogging resources in task manager and bogging down the system when ever I try to get work done. Deleteing those files helps but they come back after updates, so for now I created two empty text files and changed the filename and extensions to match the deleted files, so far that has kept updates from reinstalling those ai files

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

My main issue with Windows isn’t its technology, but its attitude. The user is no longer the most important consideration. In that way it’s become adversarial.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 4 points 9 hours ago

It's definitely an abusive relationship.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 54 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (26 children)

I just reinstalled and configured Windows for a friend who's machine was hacked, so my frustration with Microsoft is very fresh. (She lost 8 thousand dollars of her savings she's still trying to get back.) After years of using Linux I feel like I'm being punished every time I help someone with their Windows machine.

/Rant

These things in particular drive me nuts:

  • Sending everything users do and type (including passwords) back to Microsoft. It's called spyware when other companies do it. It should be called spyware when it's an OS called Microsoft Windows.
  • Flooding 1/2 the screen with web search results when a search is done from the start menu. I'm looking for an installed program, not a potato recipe.
  • Requiring a registry edit to turn that web search off and lots of other simple things that use to be configurable in settings.
  • Placing ads throughout the operating system and making it difficult to turn those ads off.
  • Forcing the use of the Edge browser no matter what users choose.
  • Preventing the removal of unwanted programs without editing the registry.
  • Forced updates at Microsoft's convenience.
  • Absurdly long restart times after updating.
  • Forced OS version upgrades.
  • Reverting settings that have been changed by the user to settings that directly benefit Microsoft's sales and marketing goals.
  • Forced restarts of the operating system causing data loss and the loss of millions of hours of work for millions of users.
  • Removing more and more user settings with each new OS release.
  • Burying commonly used menu items multiple menus deep.
  • Preventing the removal of Start menu items. I will never use the Xbox Game Bar no matter how many time I'm forced to see it.

/

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That sucks about your friend. I can relate.

Scammers hacked my elderly mother on her windows laptop. They tricked her with an ad saying there was a problem with her computer, and they had her install remote access software. She mentioned seeing the terminal so I assumed they installed (at least) a keylogger. Luckily, they either ran out of time, or their con took two days, but they said they were going to call my mom the next day and have her log in to the bank to make sure her computer was still working.

So, I wiped her computer and installed Linux Mint with auto updates set up. She only had one simple question about logging in to google chrome and that's been it for the last month. She has just been using it no problem.

Side note: The next day the scammers had the nerve to call my mom and ask her why her computer was turned off.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago

My friend got a call from "Best Buy" technical support saying they'd noticed her computer was slow and followed their instructions to set up remote access. Unfortunately she didn't realize that there was anything to be worried about. It wasn't until months later when she left the computer on and unattended that the scammers took control. Fidelity wired the money out of her account before she saw the notification and Fidelity has been jerking her around ever since. She's still badly shaken.

I'd put her on Mint, but as much as I enjoy her company I don't want to be permanent tech support for her computer.

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