Fetterman said he’s voting for it, because of course he will. Fuck that guy.
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He’s such a shithead. I’m kinda over giving him leeway for his TBI. There should absolutely be provisions for a recall elections in cases like this.
Need a constitutional amendment for that.
States cannot recall federal offices.
It's so sad, I remember hearing him talk pre-stroke and he really did seem to be a progressive ally in most ways, to see how it's turned out... Ugh.
I gave him a lot of benefit of the doubt for a long while, but it’s clear he’s changed, in a bad direction, and he both refuses to seek help or acknowledge it.
I liked him until I looked into his history. He's a nepo baby that got a local job then won national office by pretending to be progressive and wearing sweatpants or whatever. He was a fraud before his stroke and he's straight evil after it.
Probably better than Dr Fucking Oz still. I hope they both choke on crudité.
Fuck you stroke! Way to half-ass it.
Imagine if he’d died and Giselle took his place. That would have been awesome
I know he doesn’t give a damn but I’m calling him tomorrow to yell at one of his interns.
They deserve it just for working for that asshole.
I should have voted or Oz. At least I knew what I was getting.
Just shut it down, that’s what they want right? Show them what that really means. Shut it down and keep it close so the economy goes to shit
DO IT.
Shut this bitch down, I know Muskrat wants it to happen with speculation that it would aid him or w/e but historically government shutdowns have always hurt Repubs. Musky is also an idiot, who thinks he's an evil genius, so the chance it'll entirely backfire is pretty high
The reason he thinks it’ll help him is because the furloughed employees are called “non-essential” but in the context of a shutdown, it means “non-essential because all unfunded work has to stop” rather than “non-essential and so their positions can be eliminated.” And not every agency relies on Congress for funding so they just stay open. (Like if you pay a fee for something, there’s a good chance it’s self-funding and stays open during the shutdown.)
This is one of the things Elon Musk apparently doesn’t understand about government.
But it's always GOPers who are causing the shutdown, right? Has there been a dem shutdown?
No, and there still won't be because this one would also still be the GOP's fault.
Fuck yeah.
Frankly, I see very little functional difference between shutting the government down and letting the government continue to “function”, where “function” is here defined as “tear itself apart using its own goddamn funding and funnel even more of our tax money towards billionaires”.
It’s not even valid to compare this to previous bullshit funding showdowns that the GOP has instigated, because the choice at that time was shutting the government down, or allowing itself to continue to function (traditional definition) as intended. The situation is completely unrelated, save for the fact that there’s a showdown.
And, now that I mention it: Fuck you, news networks, for not making it crystal clear to the public that this is, in fact, a brand new situation, despite the fact that some of us have heard the words they’re saying in a similar order before.
A continuing resolution is full on fraud at this point. Trump has been halting programs authorized by law and funded by these CRs, meaning this CR is giving him money for programs that no longer exist. It's a setup for more Trump misappropriation.
Until Republicans hold him to account for violating the law, Democrats shouldn't allow any funding to go through.
The democrats should kick out anyone who votes for this.
If Dems stick to their guns on this, I'll be well and truly surprised. 🤷♂️
And, if Dems do reject bill in question, can they summon the balls to get what they should get out of doing so...?? 🤷♂️
I have a bit of hope that constituents are getting through, but not much expectation given Dem's past performance. 🙄
I agree. I expect they'll either fold or block the bill, then give Republicans everything they want in the "bipartisan" bill.
Amazing how y'all are so defeatist already. It’s truly remarkable. Why don’t we just go roll over and die eh? Skip all this nonsense.
Have you seen the Democratic Party's track record?! They're not exactly the party of deeds. Even when they have a majority, they can't get anything done, because "it's not according to The Process"(!)
I’m alive and not buried in 6 figure debt because of the ACA.
My brother has a legal husband because of democrats fighting for gay marriage at the state level.
My local area had many lead pipes replaced about 18mo ago that used to carry our water supply. Take a wild guess which admin made sure that happened.
I have a much longer list of complaints about the Democratic Party, but let’s start from a place of truth if we’re going to start critiquing them.
You're not wrong, but you're wrong to say it unless it's immediately accompanied by a call to action to force them to quit being that way.
“It’s amazing how y’all think the stove might be hot. Just because every other time you placed your hand on it you got burned.”
Alright I’ll ask you the same question I ask every smart ass. Let’s see if you’re the first one to actually give a real answer.
What would you have them do?
Abstain or vote no on this budget. Don’t give an inch — vote no on anything detrimental instead of trying to bargain. Drag republicans through court cases for all these nonsense executive orders.
They don’t need the democrats to vote yes. So all the people who get mad at the Democrats for doing “virtue signaling” instead of “real things” will be unhappy. I also have to ask: what does that accomplish? What does it do?
Got another suggestion?
They don’t need the democrats to vote yes
Filibuster. Make it go to reconciliation. Keep proposing amendments to gum up the works.
Now dismiss this like you dismiss anything that isn't "do whatever republicans want."
Realistically, defeatism is the best way to go.
Can do more damage getting folks’ hope up than speculating failure of leadership.
Because if they hope, then will delay personal decisions, and some people reading the social nets have stuff coming at them soon: either with federal layoffs, frozen budgets, delayed assistance, persecution or some other.
And basically saying leadership will follow track record will do no harm, it’s not like polls matter right now. There are no elections in the near future; and what the fallout of whatever they do will be huge, dwarfing any defeatism talk
Already? This is a pattern of behavior.
Uh Oh! If DEMOCRATS shut down the Government even though it's REPUBLICANS who Refuse to Compromise then they might ANGER Republicans who would NEVER vote Democrat!
Where are the guarantees that the executive branch will spend the money in the manner dictated by Congress? Leadership has lost the plot.
Yawn, actually do something for once, and I don't mean limp wristed "this is not normal" cards. Sandbag the hell out of everything. Stop waiting on The Process to fix things. Things can't be fixed anymore with courtesy. It's too late for that!
It's now time for action.
When they go low, try to find the floor! Go even lower! Fight dirty!
Sure they will. I I'm willing to bet a hundred dollars that the Democrat party will have more than five across the two chambers will vote with the Republicans here.