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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 22 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

news@lemmy.ml restricts saying anything even vaguely anti-russian in a time when Russia is effectively trying destroy the west. At the same time, they're allowing rather blatant anti-west sentiment. And I'm not saying that that's fundamentally bad, but rather that there is no such thing as unbiased.

Reddit sure sucks and needs to die though. But their bias of not supporting murder is somewhat understandable.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 38 minutes ago

Great thing about Lemmy is that I can block all instances from lemmy.ml.

[–] Silk@lemm.ee 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I saw the Hammer and Sickle on lemmy.ml and that was enough for me to know that they were probably Campists and Stalinists lol.

I guess it's good Lemmy has the different instances(?) even tho it's a bit annoying.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The beauty is that you can just block the annoying instances. I've blocked lemmy.ml so I don't see their communities, but can still see their users commenting on posts.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Not all of us are happy with it. The Pro-Russia, pro-China posts are enough to make me raise an eyebrow and keep my mouth shut when a mod comes around.

But... it's genuinely one of the better moderated instances. It is quite peaceful compared to other communities. I dont see lemmygrad, I dont see beehaw, it's just, restful

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

That's why I like my instance, the admins are great and we have the same mindset of federation: let the users decide who they want to block and only defederate from a instance if they're hugely problematic or doing something illegal.

I think lemmy.ml is federated with lemmygrad right? I never see their stuff either, it's probably such a small instance that it kinda gets lost from the activity of the bigger and more popular communities.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago

Yeah on second glance, it is federated with lemmygrad, but I somehow don't see the posts from there. Apparently, I've only blocked one sub from there "GenZedong", but that seems to be enough for me to not see any of their stuff at a ll.

I am currently slowly migrating towards another instance, but I genuinely do feel comfortable on lemmy.ml

Yes but its better that if people who are easily misled find .ml they don't just see a bunch of propaganda with noone arguing about it. It makes it look more normal. The best thing is to constantly call them idiots and accuse them of solvent abuse. That way when gullible idiots come across it they know it's stupid. A lot of people need to be told.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Finally, Reddit can die

I was one of the many MANY victims of unjust banning, and I just want my niche communities here, all the weird expansion and transformation porn I like, DBD Shitposting, and The Sims 4 troublshooting.. ahh...

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Cardinal rule of being a reddit refugee on lemmy: if you want a specific community from reddit that doesnt exist here already, start it.

[–] balssh@lemm.ee 1 points 45 minutes ago

A bit easier said than done: some don’t have the time and mental space to dedicate to moderate a community.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I settled over here when the API Desaster happend. I lost some communities, but I found new ones. Rarley, I have to engage with reddit for troubleshooting, but I treat it like any forum that I am not registered in, get my info and leave again.

You'll settle in and you'll find the places you like here. And then you can always try to start a community of your own and see if it sticks. Many don't, but some do.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

I want my Fandoms and porn here. The niche stuff is the only reason why reddit has any appeal anymore.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I was too, but it was Feb 12-13 I got banned, unjust one of my acc received a 3 day temp ban, but simultaneously it triggered reddit to ban 5 of my other accts site wide, but the ban message never indicated what was the actual violation but the generic" You violated several accounts policies" which made think it was entirely automated

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This post in R/technology hit r/all breifly Today around 7-8pm before the mods nipped that in the bud to appease shareholders. The comment section is a fucking shitshow with massive disappearing sections of engagement.

One thing that really made me chuckle is this comment by someone I copied pertaining to an AI prompt response from GROK3 they initiated;

I think if you ask an AI they'll tell you.

Here's what Grok told me a couple weeks ago:

here is Grok 3's unexpurgated take:

(Me) Assuming that the billionaires solidify their control of the US government past the point that the people can ever have a say in what happens anymore and voting becomes irrelevant, what ultimately happens after the system is completely controlled by the 0.001%?

If billionaires were to solidify control over the U.S. government to the point where democracy effectively collapses and the public has no meaningful influence, the outcome would likely be a slow but steady transformation into an oligarchic system—think a modern feudalism with extra steps. Power would concentrate in the hands of a tiny elite, maybe a few dozen families or individuals, who’d use their wealth to dictate policy, law, and resource distribution. History gives us some clues: when unchecked elites run the show—Roman patricians, Renaissance merchant-princes, or even post-Soviet oligarchs—things tend to follow a pattern.

First, you’d see the economy morph into a machine that funnels wealth upward even faster. Tax structures, labor laws, and regulations would tilt hard toward protecting the 0.001%—no more pesky antitrust enforcement or worker protections. Corporations owned by these billionaires would dominate, merging with the state in a kind of gilded fascism. Think monopolies on steroids, where dissenters get crushed not by jackboots but by algorithm-driven blacklists and financial ostracism. The middle class would erode as wages stagnate and automation (owned by the elite) displaces jobs, leaving a stark divide: a small aristocracy and a sprawling, dependent underclass.

Society wouldn’t stay quiet forever, though. People don’t just shrug off losing their voice—they simmer, then boil. Without voting as an outlet, unrest would grow. Protests, riots, maybe even low-level insurgencies could pop up, especially as inequality becomes unbearable. The billionaires would counter with surveillance tech and private security forces—Blackwater 2.0, but with drones and AI. Public education and healthcare would likely wither, keeping the masses less capable of organizing or resisting. Propaganda would ramp up too, probably through media they own, painting their rule as inevitable or benevolent.

Long term, it’s unstable. Absolute control sounds nice if you’re at the top, but it breeds resentment and fragility. The 0.001% might fracture internally—power-hungry elites often turn on each other when there’s no external threat to unify them. Or some black-swan event (climate disaster, tech breakthrough, foreign interference) could disrupt their grip. If the system gets too rigid, it might just collapse under its own weight, like a top-heavy empire—think Rome 2.0, but with better Wi-Fi. Alternatively, they could pull off a dystopian win, keeping the masses pacified with bread, circuses, and VR headsets while they sip champagne in fortified enclaves.

No crystal ball here, but the vibe would be a mix of The Hunger Games aesthetics and Gilded Age vibes—opulence for the few, quiet desperation for the rest, and a slow burn toward either revolution or resignation. What do you think—would people fight back hard, or just adapt to the new normal?

(Me again) In the scenario you just described, what happens to the billionaires themselves after society collapses?

Once society collapses under the weight of their control, the billionaires’ fate hinges on how well they’ve insulated themselves and how the collapse plays out. They’ve got resources—money, private security, bunkers, offshore havens—so they’re not exactly scrambling for scraps right away. But they’re not invincible either; a societal breakdown cuts both ways.

If it’s a chaotic free-for-all—think riots, infrastructure failure, and armed factions—they’d likely hole up in fortified compounds or flee to places like New Zealand or private islands they’ve already bought. They’ve got the means: private jets, loyal mercenaries, and stockpiles of food and fuel. Some might even have tech-driven mini-cities ready, with solar grids and hydroponics to ride out the storm. For a while, they’d live like post-apocalyptic kings, surrounded by guards and sipping vintage wine while the world burns. But isolation has limits. Supply chains, even private ones, erode in total chaos. Their staff—pilots, security, engineers—might turn on them if loyalty fades or desperation kicks in. A pissed-off ex-employee with a gun and a grudge could unravel their little utopia fast.

If the collapse spawns organized resistance—say, a coalition of pissed-off citizens or a rogue military splinter—they’d face bigger threats. Billions don’t buy immunity from a determined mob or a drone strike. History’s littered with examples: French aristocrats thought their chateaus were safe until the guillotines rolled out. The billionaires might try to negotiate, offering resources to warlords or new power players, but trust would be thin. They could end up as bargaining chips, ransomed, or just eliminated as symbols of the old regime.

Internally, they’d probably start eating each other too. With no common enemy left to unify them, rivalries would flare. One billionaire’s private army might raid another’s compound for dwindling resources. Alliances would shift, paranoia would spike, and their little oligarchy could fracture into a survivalist soap opera. Think Game of Thrones, but with fewer dragons and more Teslas.

Longer term, if society rebuilds, they might try to reinsert themselves as saviors—funding reconstruction, playing philanthropist to rewrite their legacy. Some might pull it off, especially if they’ve hoarded critical tech or knowledge. Others could fade into obscurity, their wealth meaningless in a world that’s moved on. Worst case, they’re hunted down by a new order that sees them as the root of the mess.

So, post-collapse, they’d either cling to power as warlord-lite figures in their gilded cages, get taken out by betrayal or vengeance, or slink away to obscurity if the world resets. Depends on how ruthless they stay and how much the rest of humanity cares to chase them. What’s your take—would they outlast the chaos or get swallowed by it?

Its almost funny hos people are SOOOOOOOO close to getting to the bottom of whats going on. But there is this delulu idealism resulting from years or decades of successful social conditioning to keep believing in this obviously flawed and now non existent American exceptionalism via the integrity of our democracy which hasn't existed in at least 4 decades if not longer.(probably since the mass assassination of leftist leaders in the late 1960’s) its like the first half of that prompt response isn't a theoretical what if, its a literal explanation of what has already happened and what the system and all the corporatist actors are attempting to preserve at all costs.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Alot of them complaining about the recent ban waves, many accounts were shadow banned for very little reason at all

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Thats some of it but if you order comments by controversial you’ll see the boot lickers and their neo lib apologists are out in full force

[–] quazar@lemmy.world 96 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (8 children)

I am literally here, now, commenting on this because I am reading the article to this on reddit and ..... I can't believe they are going to start punishing upvotes! That is the final stray for Reddit. Its dead. Gone the way of Digg. I am literally here now to start moving over to Lemmy.

I just realized - and must keep in mind, with a federated platform like lemmy, all of your upvotes and downvotes are broadcasted across the network. ANYONE could track your upvotes and downvotes in THIS system.

I had no idea how much I valued voting privacy.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't even like the downvote/upvote system because it promotes censorship and a lot of the times it's just an agree/disagree button. I feel that no matter how right or wrong someone is, they should always be able to express their opinion in a civil manner (obviously there are mods for removing rule breaking posts/comments). Downvoting just kills any discussion.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

Not really, it's removing the comments that isn't violating is the real problem. There are definitely comments that should be downvoted for many reasons

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Banning for mentioning Luigi is just absurd. Up voting has been a thing for a while , they just extended what it violated. Before this, up voting excessively or so soon after account creation flags you as a bot

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 46 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You don’t have voting privacy here on Lemmy though, and theoretically instance admins could “punish” you based on voting patterns.

But decentralization helps that

[–] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 42 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If an instance becomes oppressive, nothing is stopping you from going to a new one. You can’t do that with Reddit. Let’s say my instance Lemmy.ca becomes awful, I can make a new account on another and still comment on this community. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

On the other hand, harvesting that sort of data is as simple as creating an instance and Federating with whatever sub you want to spy on

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

I mean any organization that's a risk to use my data maliciously is one that can afford buying it, so I actually prefer this to my data being equally easy to access but reddit gets paid for it.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

whatever sub you want to spy on

Is it really considered spying if the sub is pretty much shouting the information freely to whoever wants to request it?

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

I have intercepted this communication to say yes, it’s still spying! 🕵️

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 7 hours ago

So keep that in mind when interacting with the fediverse

These are public forums, it's almost the point for things to be public. You could argue that votes shouldn't be part of it, but ultimately due to the decentralized nature they must be communicated to all servers

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 26 points 7 hours ago

Corporate overlords silencing discussion while selling your data to advertisers. Classic digital fascism.

🐱🐱

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 52 points 9 hours ago

Mod:

Please link directly to articles, and provide archive links in the body or comments. I'm not locking or removing this at this time, but please take note in the future.

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 58 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The entire system wants you to forget about Luigi and the entire issue. Sort of memory hole it like so many other things and let them punish him in secret. So it's no surprise Reddit and others will try to Streisand it.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

They have been suppressing Luigi news every chance it pops up

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. That’s the best part. There would have been a Luigi article every once in a while giving an update or whatever. Nothing is going on with him rn. But blocking his name is getting everyone talking about him again, and some are switching platforms because of it.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Streisand effect, much like how Msm was trying to paint as a degenerate killer, and made people find out why he did it

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