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[–] kaerypheur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Alexa! Install Linux!

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If you were using one, you were already okay with this.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Hell, chances are they were already

[–] faberyayo@lemm.ee 22 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, just avoid the oligarchy tech

[–] PeteZa@lemm.ee 6 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I agree. Although it’s nearly impossible at this point. Especially with Amazon running a significant portion of the internet with AWS. Each one of us most likely touches an Amazon server multiple times a day, even if we don’t have any Amazon subscriptions.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 10 points 1 hour ago

That doesn't matter. You only need to worry about boycotting things within your control, like Amazon shopping and their consumer products. AWS is profitable, but so is Amazon.com.

Buying something at a different store is always a dub even if that store is using AWS on the backend.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Like the other person said, you can at least control what you interact with directly. So you cancel your Prime subscription and turn your lights with your hand instead of an Echo but you don’t worry so much about trying to figure out if any of the several companies involved in making [product] have some form of attachment to AWS.

And there will be some level of consumption in this horrible system that’s not gunna be good in order for you to not be horribly depressed but people can shed more than they think and alternatives do exist for many of the ones you might put at lower priority.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 29 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

If you do not want to set your voice recordings setting to 'Don't save recordings,' please follow these steps before March 28th:

Am I the only one curious to know what these steps are? The image cuts off the rest of the email.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If anyone else is wondering, I’ve not found a verbatim quote of the steps but I did see an article that mentioned the consequences. It seems like you will be able to turn this off but it will disable Voice ID:

anyone with their Echo device set to “Don’t save recordings” will see their already-purchased devices’ Voice ID feature bricked. Voice ID enables Alexa to do things like share user-specified calendar events, reminders, music, and more. Previously, Amazon has said that "if you choose not to save any voice recordings, Voice ID may not work." As of March 28, broken Voice ID is a guarantee for people who don't let Amazon store their voice recordings.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

The old "privacy focused" setting made speech processing local. The new "privacy focused setting" means that processing will happen on a remote server, but Amazon won't store the audio after it's been processed. Amazon could still fingerprint voices with the new setting, to know if it was you or your parents/parter/kid/roommate/whomever and give a person specific response, but for now at least they appear to not be doing so.

This all seems like it's missing the point to me. If you own one of these devices you're giving up privacy for convenience. With the old privacy setting you were still sending your processed speech to a server nearly every time you interacted with one of those devices because they can't always react/provide a response on their own. Other than trying to avoid voice fingerprinting, it doesn't seem like the old setting would gain you much privacy. They still know the device associated to the interaction, know where the device is located, which accounts it's associated with, what the interaction was, etc. They can then fuse this information with tons of other data collected from different devices, like a phone or computer. They don't need your unprocessed speech to know way too much about you.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 39 points 4 hours ago
  1. Unplug your amazon echo devices
  1. Hit it with a hammer
  1. Send it to an electronics recycler
[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

How the fuck does anyone even buy one of these

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You can get them on Amazon.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well played.

[–] Flisty@mstdn.social 7 points 3 hours ago

@richardisaguy @Tea sometimes they just come free with stuff. We got given two Google ones when my husband bought a Pixel phone. We were going to sell them on but we never got round to it. You can physically turn off the microphone part though (at least it tells you it's turned off so fingers crossed) so we use the one with a screen as a digital photo frame (and a speaker) and the other one as just a speaker.

[–] AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

The same people who buy mobile phones; despite those being bugs/spy-devices.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

True, but a mobile phone is basically a world brain, calculator, camera, flashlight, you can watch movies on it in hi def, hate it all you want, it's one of the most versatile tools on the planet. An echo dot, it just spy garbage and nothing else

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[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

Phones are at least easier to justify since everyone kinda needs one now and there aren't many great private options, especially for the lay person

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[–] jim3692@discuss.online 6 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

At least, on mobile devices, it's typically easier to install a privacy-focused firmware (like LineageOS or GrapheneOS). Those AI assistants are completely locked down.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have a bunch in my house. It's a glorified radio all I use it for is:

  • Set timer for x minute
  • What time is it
  • Ask CBC to play radio one Toronto
  • What is the weather today

For the convenience I accept the mining they may do.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 hours ago

Which Echo devices ever supported local only processing? They cost about £30. There's no kit that can do decent voice commands for that money. You'd be lucky to have a device that processes claps to turn the lights on for that.

[–] Billybob22@feddit.uk 10 points 5 hours ago

Just sold my 3 devices and shut down Amazon account. It's very liberating and I don't miss it one bit. Have Home Assistant and a couple of really good 2nd hand Sonos speakers.

[–] DaChrissy@reddthat.com 76 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

Amazon really got people to pay to be spied on. Wild world we live in bois

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 33 points 7 hours ago

They literally could just leave the feature on the device, but then you can't force your users to send you all their data, voices, thoughts and first borns

Fuck Amazon, fuck Bezos

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