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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Avoid Revolt as there moderation is questionable

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[–] msage@programming.dev 11 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Way too few mentions of Jitsi.

I use it with friends, it has good server config, and I'm pushing it on businesses.

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[–] DaveX64@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been tinkering with old BBS software :)

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

If you're self hosting, it's Revolt. But the default instance limits you to 20mb or something for files, which is a problem for me, personally.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Revolt is also an annoyance to self host and the apps don’t support self hosted instances without you rebuilding them because the server is hardcoded.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why even give the option then lmao

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That’s just it, it isn’t an option

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[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That's a throwback. Let's take it one step further and just get back on Ventrilo and play some DOTA. (For the younger folks who don't get the reference: https://youtu.be/aTJncWndUB8 )

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (22 children)

Why use Element for matrix?

From what I can tell it collets and links data to you: Location, identifiers and contact information.

How is that private or better than Signal?

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[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Matrix is nice, and you can have jitsi for calls integrated. It seems to be pretty popular; Lemmy has a field for matrix @ in user profiles. Never heard of revolt before.

[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I use Jitsi for a non-profit, and I like the mute someone else function, but oh wow the noise cancellation needs improvement. So many voice comm apps have disappeared (there used to be one our group used all the time, then the devs dropped it (the client app) and just became on API or something).

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

Me and my brother are using teamspeak to this day.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 7 points 3 months ago

Matrix is spectacularly cursed to the point of being unusable if you self-host it. The protocol is dumb enough to lock you out of rooms hosted on another server forever if anything goes wrong with the key rotation.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Somebody needs to create an XMPP/Jitsi hybrid

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Jitsi-meet is already using xmpp under the hood.

But there are some efforts to add multi-user video calls to full xmpp clients as well. Dino can already do it for a while, and Movim and Libervia recently added experimental support.

Its not quite a full Discord replacement, but for private groups it works quite well.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Element/matrix all the way

if you want something that looks like discord there are themes for the clients, there's even commet.chat for a discord like experience (but they haven't added calls yet)

[–] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Calls and easily sharing my screen are 90% of my use cases for Discord. The entire appeal of it initially was that it was a more functional Ventrilo with both text and voice channels. Hopefully something FOSS gets further developed by the time Discord completely shits the bed.

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