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[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

lets just create an alternate wizarding universe.

i mean, she stole the idea from someone else anyways.

this could just be a "cruel reflection" minus the TERF nonsense, and wizards shitting on the floor.

[–] ghostface@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Instead of palworld A wizworld

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

minus the TERF nonsense, and wizards shitting on the floor.

I get the TERF stuff, but why go after such a highly regarded part of official canon lore?

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 23 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It's disappointing that even here on the fediverse people are cheering for the franchise of someone who's sole motivation these days seems to be hating trans people.

[–] 3xBork@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There's about a thousand and one other people involved with the franchise after 8 movies, 3 spinoff movies, a play and a dozen or so videogames.

Rowling is pretty much irrelevant to the fandom and people aren't into the HP stuff because of her.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She is directly benefitting from the sales and people buying Harry Potter stuff know that.

[–] 3xBork@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah so are about a thousand other people who worked on the franchise/product in question and may be very positive influences on the world.

Trying to deny a literal billionaire money is symbolic at best.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Do you feel the same about boycotting Tesla?

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

If you are a fan of HP your choices are few and far between. If you are a fan of electric cars there are tons of better options that you can choose from. Adding on to that, the level of investment in both are orders of magnitude apart. What's more, Tesla as a company has a reputation of having lots of issues of racism and misogyny in the workplace. I think the two are different enough that one can buy the blame and boycott Tesla without any hypocrisy.

[–] 3xBork@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

I don't because they're not really comparable. Not in their intended effect nor their feasibility.

There are many other electrics cars, many of them better and/or cheaper and entirely interchangable. Boycotting Tesla just means getting a direct substitute instead. There aren't any substitutes for HP games because the IP itself is the whole point.

Another point where they're not comparable: Tesla isn't the problem here, Elon is and he needs to go. And he can be gotten rid of, which is the entire point of the boycot. Meanwhile, there is no mechanism legal or otherwise to remove Rowling from the equation. She owns the IP and no amount of boycots will change that. The only thing boycotting HP products achieves is making the companies involved fail and preventing any further HP products from being developed. So what does that achieve?

Finally: we are talking about a woman saying mean things about trans people on the Internet versus a man actively dragging the USA into fascism as if these are equal problems requiring equal responses. As much as I empathise with trans people in that this issue can be much more real for them than it is for me, I still don't think they're anywhere near the same level of urgency. I have yet to see Rowling have any kind of meaningful effect, while Elon is currently rampaging through every institution he can reach.

So: given that boycotting Tesla is both easy, effective and urgent, while boycotting HP is a personal sacrifice for no real effect, surely you see the difference?

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It isn't for "no real effect". Harry Potter is a merchandise empire and it's important to see how that empire is being utilized. Open fan support of Harry Potter is often used as a direct open signal of anti-trans support and Terf ideology. Here in Vancouver where we have a larger than average population of trans and non-binary folk and more open accommodation to the community a billboard was put up saying "I❤️ JK Rowling" downtown because it's a more nebulous dogwhistle that wouldn't immediately ping Canada's hate speech laws so that the whole "Freedom of Speech" ploy could be envoked.

Whenever a new HP franchise item comes out there's a wave of people who flood online and sometimes in person trans spaces who use the barest veneer of support of the franchise as a means to say some truely awful things about trans people. Some don't even bother mentioning the franchise they just participate in the storming because they have the opportunity. Those spaces are often filled with vulnerable people seeking support and solidarity and these rushes can leave isolated trans people without community for weeks.

Here in Van someone wearing HP merch in any queer space is throwing up a flag that says "I am potentially an unsafe person."

Article of the billboard.

http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5722244

You don't have to give up your books. All we ask is that people do not white knight the author or the publication and merchandising empire which keeps making her influence into an active memetic weapon.

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[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Because there are people who can still love a franchise and not the person who created it?

Wow, blew your mind.

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[–] Autocheese@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I think it’s really interesting that the christians used to have a huge hate boner for Harry Potter when I was growing up but now it’s shifted to the left sphere. They all kinda flip flopped

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[–] barooboodoo@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

Every time I see Harry Potter or J.K. Rowling's name in the news I look for comments like these to restore a tiny bit of my sanity.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Oh no... anyways.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

oh no not the expansion to the game no one even remembers

dude they shut down monolith and canceled the only game with a nemesis system we were going to play. nothing they do is newsworthy anymore. they were always shitty but now they're also completely pointless.

[–] ThatFirey@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago

Only would buy if Rowling wasn't around to receive the money from that, for now, only piracy

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Still waiting for them to drop Denuvo so I can pirate it. Yes, I am aware there are some old builds out there, but I know what kind of crazy circumvented Denuvo in those. No, thanks.

[–] monarch@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

Whatever do you mean empress is completely well adjusted person who has never said anything questionable even once.

/s in case that was necicary

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Lmao all the potterhead dweebs are gonna be malding over this one.

Y'all should read another book sometime, play a different game. Who knows, you might like it.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

O WB. I hope you to under and loose all your licenses and copyright.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

There is a lot to say about JK Rowling and trans right, but this topic is kinda devolving into an unnecessary flame war.
I'll keep as much comments as I can, but some of them clearly violate both LW TOS and community rules, and thus will be removed.

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