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Yes, but don't let your self righteousness turn a budding class war back into a culture war.
If Republican voters are suddenly waking up and thinking "this isn't right" smacking them down with "this is what you voted for" is not going to help your cause.
"Yes, you're right, this shouldn't be happening and we should work together to stop it."
TBH I'm okay with folks admitting they were lied to. Just help us fix this now.
Trump literally spouting hate, absurd deportation rhetoric, and insane tariffs while on the campaign.
I didn't know he would do that! ~~It wasn't supposed to ruin my life just the other Average American people!~~
Republicans are the stupidest racists on the planet, they can't even recognize when they're about to get robbed after being told they're going to get robbed by the robber.
Seeing a Hispanic Virginia citizen that voted for trump get arrested by ICE without warrant is the full circle stupidity that I've attributed to uncle Toms and log cabinors in the past. You voted so ICE would roll up on people and just grab them off the street because you wanted to be a pick me. Well they picked you up dumbass.
It's the same shit I see when "moderates" get all surprise Pikachu faced when the "fiscal conservatives" they wanted, piss on them with trickle down economics.
You voted so ICE would roll up on people and just grab them off the street because you wanted to be a pick me. Well they picked you up dumbass.
They wanted to be a pick me; they were picked to be deported.
I'd love to here from the "project 2025 isn't real." folks right about now.
No, they knew what it was. They just didn’t think it would affect them.
Farmers didn’t realize they were the E in DEI
This right here. Dumbasses thought they were not on the list but it turns out they had just not gotten that far down the list yet.
I never thought the leopards would eat my face!
I also blame the 90M eligible voters that abstained from the election. Think about that for a second. There were 13M more people that did nothing, than all of the people that voted for Trump.
Welcome to adulthood. Make a choice or one will be made for you. If you stand for nothing, then you’ll fall for anything.
Inb4 people come here to defend their self-righteousness. No, nephews. You made a stupid choice for stupid reasons, and it's time to accept your core values are obnoxious and self-centered, and then shape up.
Same phrase applies to non voters and trumpanzees alike. You were lied to and you fell for it … simple as
100% agree. I don't really care what their reasons for not voting Harris was.
If they abstained from voting because of Israel, or her affiliation with the prison industrial complex, if it was something ignorant like skin color or gender, or if they voted against her because they either supported Trump, or just always voted Republican no matter what.
Trump voters and non voters decided that the worlds largest military should be long to fascists.
I have no respect for people who whine that this is not what they voted for, because it was. Ignorance is no excuse.
If you regret your actions, NOW is the time to make up for it. Become politically active, speak up, inform your friends, do SOMETHING!
If you didn't vote for Harris in 2024, and you are not yet politically active against republicans, you deserve the bullets coming in your civil war.
So fucking glad i am not American.
You should really ask yourself why so many people just didn't see the point in voting.
after WW2 and the horrors of the Nazis came fully to light....people kept asking....how did the German people let this happen? how did they let it continue until disaster fell? how could they have allowed such cruelty and degradation to occur?
THIS was how. by not paying attention. by ignoring the growing inequities and terror going on in their midst. BY PRETENDING EVERYTHING WAS OK.
and now WE are doing the same. it's easy to ignore right now....it isn't TOO bad....not TOO many people are being affected...yet.
we need to stop ignoring and start paying attention to exactly what they are doing.
I'm sure the millions and millions of conservatives who use Lemmy are going to read this and really rethink their positions.
I'm not convinced most conservatives can read.
The situation with literacy in the USA does more to reveal exactly where and what we are far better than any other arguments about our wealth and society. We have a really big fucking problem here.
21% of adults in this country are FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE. This is mind-melting for the "richest nation on Earth." We have nearly a quarter of our population who know how read words as necessary to survive but cannot string together text to form coherent narratives or even pictures in their heads. They can text with emojis and monosyllables but are deeply insecure about not being able to comprehend longer paragraphs and as a result rage against notions of logic and reason and fact-checking. This is what functional illiteracy means and we've all encountered it, and this is where much of our science-denial and irrational beliefs are coming from.
https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-statistics-2024-2025-where-we-are-now
"A nazi walks into a bar, and is welcomed at a table by his nine friends. How many Nazis are at the table?" Anyone who sides with fascists, even tentatively or for differing reasons, is themselves still a fascist.
The German Nazis didn't gain power purely from support of other nazis; they gained power largely from various other parties, business leaders, and wealthy elite, who thought the Nazis would be a useful tool they could use and control to their own ends. The "why" of their support is far less important than the fact of the support itself, and the fact those people were responsible for helping the Nazis commit their crimes.
There is a difference -- his nine friends can still be shown the light.
They were so happy they got to screw over everyone they disagreed with. They considered themselves apart, separate, better, than those they disagreed with. They were the Real America™, the rest of us weren't part of that. They completely overlooked the fact that, for now at least, we are all still Americans, living in the same country, under the same economy, and the same rules. So they suffer the consequences of their hubris and myopic exceptionalism.
No one read it. There were plenty of more obvious warnings.
https://www.project2025.observer/
Thing is, we're all going to burn together. The one bright spot in the coming years will be that moment when maga realizes they are going down along with everyone they wanted him to hurt.
It won't fix everything, but that schadenfreude will keep me warm in my final moments.
I fear it will be like anti vaxxers dying on a ventilator during covid. By the time they realize that they did in fact fuck up and the magnitude of said fuckup, they’ll have metaphorical tubes in their throat and it will be too late for it to matter. What I fear the most is that we have less than a year or that we’re already there. Talks of invasion and third term abound it’s only a matter of time the melting brain of trump starts trying to nuke someone
The people who voted for Trump are only angry that they are being hurt. Even if they read Project 2025, they'd assume they'd be exempt and that it'd only hurt the right people.
There is no reason to engage in smug gloating to shame them into repenting or trying to gently reason with them. You shouldn't even be talking to them. You should seek to undermine them at every level possible. They need to be kneecapped.
A lot of Rep voters approve of Project 2025. His approval isn't that low. Approval of certain policies, like tarriffs are low, but overall approval isn't. What's scary is his most evil policies (the immigration policies) have some of the highest approval.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush, 1980
Not only did they vote for this.
A lot a lot of them only voted for trump on the ballot and no downticket names or state questions.
They literally voted for specifically this.
they'll then tell you that he disavowed project 2025 because he doesn't lie every other sentence.
"every politician lies" they'll say about Kamala Harris' affordable housing programs
you're preaching to the choir.
Why do you even assume they can even read in the first place ?
He's doing everything he promised to do and then some. But don't worry, the outcome would have been the same regardless of who we voted for, remember?
Even if they didn’t read project 2025.
Just like covid, we had the 1/3 sane portion of the population that tried to warn the idiotic 1/3 while they refused to listen.
It’s one thing to be uninformed, it’s another to demonize (yes they did) people who are trying to help you.
What about the idiots who chose to stay home and not vote at all. They may not have voted for it, but they weren't voting against it either, and ambivalence in the face of fascism is tacit support.
Im having a grand time pointing it out as often as possible. Oh you had to skip on lunchables because they went up this month? glad your vote is working out. Gas still the same price? wonder who is doing that now. Oh you didnt get your bonus check, due to increased business costs? I wonder why.
