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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 185 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If you tried that today, someone online would come in and buy up that property. We have no defense against monetary predators like we used to.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Pretty much this. Penny auctions worked because you had to physically be in the room, which means it's far easier for your friends and neighbors with guns and other implements of violence to tell the bank rep "hey maybe you should sit this one out bud" when they show up.

You know, because of the implication.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

"Are these bidders in any danger?"

"Yes"

[–] corgifur@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Mac: “It’s foolproof, dude!—nobody’ll bid when see my sweet ninja moves!”

Charlie: “Yeah, and I’ll huff some paint to really sell the unhinged vibe!”

Dee: “How will that help?”

Dennis: “Because, Sweet Dee… of the implication.”

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 days ago

Strange, ever since that oligarch brought that land it keeps catching fire.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'd think banks probably just have a reserve price these days (a minimum price they'll accept on the property).

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"In other news an auctioneer was beaten to death by a mob of farmers today after not accepting a bid."

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

We're gonna need more Luigis!

Exactly. Auctions usually have a starting bid.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Sure we do. We just need a lot more of this:

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

~~someone~~

A multi billion dollar conglomerate you mean.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Come on down and check out your new property!

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Yet another way that telecommunications have ruined the world. Can't intimidate some semisentient business casual wear headquartered in Franktown, CO and located fuck knows where

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"bid starts at X amount" is something they were too stupid for?

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago

Starting amounts don't apply when you have a mob of farmers willing to kill you if you don't take the 50 cents.

[–] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, nobody bids, bank still has land they can't use and no money, auctioneer gets shot in his sleep.

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would never work today, of course. Redfin or Zillow would take any offer.

[–] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Pressure to do the human thing is way harder to apply to the people making the decisions are far away and when they can hide behind faceless corporations answering to faceless investors that are also far away.

It can be done, and it has been done, but it's not really a practical long term solutions to a systematic problem.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A naive libertarian might see the anti-competitive auction as fair.

Someone with awareness of history might note the unfair laws which led to banks wresting land from farmers. Then realize that nothing was fair.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 33 points 3 days ago

“Hey I’ve got the papers, whether it is just or legal really isn’t my problem and I’m sorry for your situation anyway give me the farm.”

“Hey be that as it may the whole community has decided that whoever takes this farm is going to get hit with a bunch of ax-handles.”

“Unfair, injustice”

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wonder if there were times when someone was a terrible neighbour and the nearby farmers just refused to help. Like, say some dude who got drunk and didn't take care of his land so he had pests who infested nearby farms. Or he borrowed equipment from the neighbours and didn't return it, or returned it broken.

Imagine an auction like that where a guy thinks his neighbours are going to prevent people from bidding, but instead they bid to take his farm because they hate him so much.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Reminds me of that case of the guy getting murdered in broad daylight, and every eyewitness saying they saw nothin'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy

Imagine being such a piece of work that several dozen people independently decide not to help with your murder investigation... ~~and still managing to find a wife~~

Of course that story is awful too, I should have guessed

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

and still managing to find a wife

Um... Well, he didn't exactly "find a wife" in the way most people do.

He met his last wife, Trena McCloud (1957–2012), when she was 12 years old and in eighth grade and he was 35. He raped McCloud repeatedly. McCloud's parents initially opposed the relationship, but McElroy threatened them into agreement by burning down the house and shooting the family dog.

"Relationship" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting there.

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I suspect it was a small enough community that they could deal with those people without much problem.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Lol. Lmao, even.

Unfortunately, banks plan for this tactic anymore.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's a very weird way to try to use "anymore".

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

the fact that you don't have a positive version of anymore except for approximations like nowadays is the problem. other languages have a word for "from a certain point on" that can be used in both positive and negative sense.

you have no longer which also functions like anymore but I can't think of an opposite for that either.

from now on is the only thing I can think of that can be used in both senses but that's only useful for specific times (you could say from then on too, but the then has to be specified).

there's clearly a need for it so people use anymore in a positive sense. why not.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

The problem isn't the word, it's grammatical.

I'm not explaining this with proper terms as it's my first language and didn't pay attention in class as a kid but: Anymore is negative, but the verb itself needs a negating adverb. In english the correct phrase is:

Unfortunately, banks plan for this tactic now.

Which isn't an approximation. "Now" in context means exactly "from a certain point on", and is the positive version.

To grammatically use "anymore" you need to change the wording/structure altogether, and add negation:

Unfortunately, the tactic doesn't work on banks anymore

Alternatively, changing the meaning altogether for the sake of grammar:

Unfortunately, banks don't plan for this tactic anymore.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To highlight why it's wrong, I just use the example of asking if the store has widgets in stock, and the clerk says, "We have any." (Compare to, "We don't have any.")

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

But your example has a glaring flaw! What if the widget store did indeed stock every widget? An excellent boast in that case.

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[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

"After that" "Now" "In current day" "That doesn't work anymore, as banks plan against it"

[–] corbs132@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about have since? “Banks have since planned for this tactic”

I guess it still implies a specific time/event, but maybe it’s a little less clunky than “from then on”

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

no the use of participle makes the time non-specific, and it's a good alternative. it just changes the sentence altogether. I was trying to address the need for using a word exactly the way you would use anymore but for positive sentences. someone suggested "now" which is pretty close but I think doesn't work in all cases.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Since then," "thenceforth"

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

nope. both specific.

banks plan for this tactic since then / thenceforth

doesn't work

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's because, in English, that tense should actually be "banks have planned". It doesn't make these options any less correct. If you want to use "banks plan", just put "now"

The idealized formulation of this sentence would be "thenceforth, banks planned for this tactic", "since then, banks have planned for this tactic", or "banks plan for this tactic now"

[–] Srh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would "since then"be a certain point on?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

yes but the thing about anymore is that the "certain point" isn't specified. "people don't do this anymore" could mean they stopped yesterday or 500 years ago. it's not even necessarily relevant. to be able to say "since then" you need to know when "then" is in the first place.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve seen this come up before. It is apparently a regional thing.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

Banks do this fuckin tactic now

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

Now every property bid has a hold and its a waste of everyone's time.

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