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They're right on the money. We're getting double the oblivion!
(you guys decide which cake is whose)
Skyblivion >>> remake
We haven't even seen the remake yet.
It's Bethesda, there's not a lot of goodwill with them
I understand Virtuous did the remaster.
Bethesda isn't the one remaking it
I love when people are just totally confident and wrong on things that are well known and easy to find.
From what I've read it's not actually made by Bethesda, it isn't using the creation engine and there are gameplay changes.
That information turned me from not caring to checking out what people will say when it releases.
I'm sure the remake will release with the same level of QA and polish that the original Oblivion shipped with. That renowned Bethesda standard of quality.
The remake is being handled by a third party, and it's unclear so far what they've been allowed to do besides replace the graphics rendering with Unreal Engine 5. It's all reportedly still Creation Engine under the hood.
Considering that Bethesda refused to roll in the community bug fixes with their rereleases of Skyrim, it's likely that it will have all the bugs of the original.
Skyblivion is developed from a place of love, the official remaster is developed from a place of “money please”
I'm over here supporting Tamriel Rebuilt myself.
I'll wait the eternity for Oblivion support on OpenMW.
Gosh I hope but Bethesda's Radiant AI in Oblivion made for some real weird and unique NPC interactions. It gave that game its charm, IMO. Skyrims is different and just porting the game to Skyrim's Creation Engine might lose some of that weird charm.
Every time I see a Luigi Saint pfp, it's a based take.
Yeah, it's all cool until Bethesda or their owners issue a takedown.
If I recall correctly the team behind Skyblivion was (or still is) in contact with Bethesda throughout the development and had no problems with the latter in regards their work. Heck, Bethesda itself posted about the mod on their site in 2023.
They've been aware of Skyblivion for years and there's no indication they're interested in killing it.
That goodwill can change in an instant, especially if they are releasing a competing product, and especially if the legal team gets in the loop rather than the development staff.
Can it change? Sure. There's just no reason to expect that based on Bethesda's approach to modding until now. I'd rather base my expectations on their past actions rather than assume the worst just in case.
skyblivion is great marketing, and it's free to let them keep going for now. Keep people excited about a new oblivion, and then kill the only other option besides yourself. I actually think it's more likely than not that there is a last minute reversal.
Bethesda is pretty open about their support in modding.
Exactly, which is why I don't expect them to do anything hostile towards this project - both remakes have their own goals and approaches after all.
Also, Skyblivion will, at worst, only cut into their PC sales. The official remake will be the only option available on consoles due to the nature of the mod.
The way skyblivion has been implemented avoids all this. They have made it very clear they are not in any way using original assets or providing the game. They are mods that utilize both Skyrim and Oblivion game files and you must have both for it to work. It is modding those game files, not providing them.
My computer's specs are just under the minimum for new games released these days. It will probably be able to handle Skyblivion, but almost definitely not the remake. So that's the one that has my attention
can the rest of us hate?
That's because they're classy and understand that the two are totally different projects. Skyblivion is impressive but that doesn't even remotely mean that an official remaster/remake isn't worth having.
Good response. A bit offtopic but:
Earlier this month our Jim called upon Bethesda to remake Morrowind rather than Oblivion. "You cowards," Jim wrote, calling Morrowind a "special game, where a beautifully unique fantasy setting is locked away behind technology and interface design that has aged particularly badly".
I prefer Morrowind's UI to Skyrim's, even with SkyUI mod:
Overall, this whole system was obviously designed for consoles and it doesn't really work well on PC even with mods. I don't really remember Oblivion's interface, but the one in Morrowind's is something that I think definitely needs less "fixing" than Skyrim's for example. And I don't think it aged bad at all. Also hotkey system was great, I really miss it in Skyrim, potions are way less fun when you need to go through a bunch of menus every time you want to drink one.
I like Morrowind's interface better, too, with the optional window managing and selecting dialogue options from within text. But the icon-only inventory is atrocious. I have to hover every single icon to know what it is. I hope OpenMW will spawn a mod or something that will offer an alternative.
Two cakes.