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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 24 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

This article appeared in my feed just above another article about how China has the world's first operational thorium reactor. Meanwhile, the US is about to fight a civil war over whether vaccination causes measles and stripping away the last of our social programs in order to get our wealthiest people another 2% subsidy.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

Fuck the idiotic Americans that won't bother to immunize, never mind understanding science as a whole.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

China scientists

So, Chinese scientists?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

I think it's a slightly different connotation. "China scientists" infers scientists residing in China while not presuming their ethnicity, while "Chinese scientists" implies their ethnicity but not their location.

[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 7 points 5 hours ago

Real talk, why is discussion around people and subjects in China so fucking weird?

If it's not referring to the entire population when it only applies to the government or a subset of them as a global "the Chinese" or doing silly shit like "China scientists" everyone's grammatical skills suddenly tank when even broaching a topic even tangential to the PRC.

[–] Mooseford@lemmy.today 15 points 7 hours ago

No they are people who study the China Science.

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 8 points 6 hours ago

No, it's people who study fine tableware.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago

Him legend.

[–] DasSkelett@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously, for me a "China scientist" is someone doing research on China, like a space scientist would do research on astronomy and similar. But I'm not a native English speaker, so, idk

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

The wording of the headline would be different if it were trying to convey that.

[–] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but endurance. and accuracy. and longevity. How about those?

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

And price and maye write more than 1 single bit

[–] minoscopede@lemmy.world 47 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Link to the actual paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08839-w

The repro and verification will take time. Months or even years. Don't trust anyone who says it's definitely real or definitely bunk. Time will tell.

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Damn. I just pulled all my stock out quantum computing and thru it all into this…

[–] anonApril2025@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago

Easy when you have zero

[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 174 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

By tuning the “Gaussian length” of the channel, the team achieved two‑dimensional super‑injection, which is an effectively limitless charge surge into the storage layer that bypasses the classical injection bottleneck.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 57 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Which episode of Star Trek is this from?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The one where there's a problem with the holodeck.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's the one where Barclay gets obsessed with his Holodeck program.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think so. I just rewatched it. It's the one where Data finds out something to make himself more human. Picard tells him something profound and moving.

[–] geomela@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I think I saw that one. It's the one where Ricker sits down on a chair like he's mounting a small horse.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 34 points 16 hours ago

They're just copying the description of the turbo encabulator.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 21 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Clickbait article with some half truths. A discovery was made, it has little to do with Ai and real world applications will be much, MUCH more limited than what's being talked about here, and will also likely still take years to come out

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 65 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

AI AI AI AI

Yawn

Wake me up if they figure out how to make this cheap enough to put in a normal person's server.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 92 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

normal person’s server.

I’m pretty sure I speak for the majority of normal people, but we don’t have servers.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 35 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, when you're a technology enthusiast, it's easy to forget that your average user doesn't have a home server - perhaps they just have a NAS or two.

(Kidding aside, I wish more people had NAS boxes. It's pretty disheartening to help someone find old media and they show a giant box of USB sticks and hard drives. In a good day. I do have a USB floppy drive and a DVD drive just in case.)

lol yeah, the lemmy userbase is NOT an accurate sample of the technical aptitude of the general population 😂

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hello fellow home labber! I have a home built xpenology box, proxmox server with a dozen vm’s, a hackentosh, and a workstation with 44 cores running linux. Oh, and a usb floppy drive. We are out here.

I also like long walks in Oblivion.

[–] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 5 points 13 hours ago

Man oblivion walks are the best until a crazy woman comes at you trying to steal your soul with a fancy sword

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

It's pretty disheartening to help someone find old media and they show a giant box of USB sticks and hard drives.

Equally disheartening is knowing that both of those have a shelf-life. Old USB flash drives are more durable than the TLC/QLC cells we use today, but 15 years sitting unpowered in a box doesn't have very good prospects.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 41 points 16 hours ago

Ikr...Dude thinks we're restaurants or something.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You... you don't? Surely there's some mistake, have you checked down the back of your cupboard? Sometimes they fall down there. Where else do you keep your internet?

Appologies, I'm tired and that made more sense in my head.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Well obviously the internet is kept in a box, and it’s wireless. The elders of the internet let me borrow it occasionally.

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Does flash, like solid state drives, have the same lifespan in terms of write? If so, it feels like this would most certainly not be useful for AI, as that use case would involve doing billions/trillions of writes in a very short span of time.

Edit: It looks like they do: https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/hardware/life-expectancy-of-a-drive/

Manufacturers say to expect flash drives to last about 10 years based on average use. But life expectancy can be cut short by defects in the manufacturing process, the quality of the materials used, and how the drive connects to the device, leading to wide variations. Depending on the manufacturing quality, flash memory can withstand between 10,000 and a million [program/erase] cycles.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

For AI processing, I don't think it would make much difference if it lasted longer. I could be wrong, but afaik, running the actual transformer for AI is done in VRAM, and staging and preprocessing is done in RAM. Anything else wouldn't really make sense speed and bandwidth wise.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Oh I agree, but the speeds in the article are much faster than any current volatile memory. So it could theoretically be used to vastly expand memory availability for accelerators/TPUs/etc for their onboard memory.

I guess if they can replicate these speeds in volatile memory and increase the buses to handle it, then they'd be really onto something here for numerous use cases.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Too bad the US can't import any of it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

they can if they pay 6382538% tariffs.

or was it 29403696%?

[–] errer@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

“These chips are 10,000 times faster, therefore we will increase our tariffs to 10,100%!”

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 27 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Brother, have you heard of buses? Even INSIDE cpus/socs bus speeds are a limitation. Also i fucking hate how the first thing people mention now is how ai could benefit from a jump in computing power.

Edit: I havent dabbled that much in high speed stuff yet but isnt the picosecond range so fast that the capacitance of simple traces and connectors between chips influence the rising and falling edge of chips?

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

That's pretty much my understanding. Most of the advancements happened in memory speeds are related to the physical proximity of the memory and more efficient transmission/decoding.

GDDR7 chips for example are packed as close as physically possible to the GPU die, and have insane read speeds of 28 Gbps/pin (and a 5090 has a 512-bit bus). Most of the limitation is the connection between GPU and RAM, so speeding up the chips internally 1000x won't have a noticeable impact without also improving the memory bus.

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