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Social media influencers are fuelling a rise in misogyny and sexism in the UK's classrooms, according to teachers.

More than 5,800 teachers were polled... and nearly three in five (59%) said they believe social media use has contributed to a deterioration in pupils' behaviour.

One teacher said she'd had 10-year-old boys "refuse to speak to [her]...because [she is] a woman". Another said "the Andrew Tate phenomena had a huge impact on how [pupils] interacted with females and males they did not see as 'masculine'".

"There is an urgent need for concerted action... to safeguard all children and young people from the dangerous influence of far-right populists and extremists."

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[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I read this and thought something didn't add up. If all Tate ever did was disrespect women and treat them like property, nobody would care about him. Unsurprisingly, the truth is more complicated. See this for example.

The manosphere appeals to its audience because it speaks to the very real lives of young men [. . .] romantic rejection, alienation, economic failure, loneliness, and a dim vision of the future.

The major problem lies in its diagnosis of the cause of male disenfranchisement, which fixates on the impacts of feminism. Here it contrasts the growing challenges faced by men with the increasing social, economic and political success experienced by women. This zero-sum claim posits that female empowerment must necessarily equate to male disempowerment, and is evidenced through simplified and pseudoscientific theories of biology and socioeconomics.

If Tate's appeal is not addressed, things will get worse.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Some of you need more empathy. These are children whose insecurities are being exploited for profit. Be mad at their parents, and be mad at figures like Andrew Tate. But these are children and they deserve more grace than that.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I know it'll come across as an unpopular opinion, but some of them just need their ass kicked. Literally went to high school with a kid who was insufferable, a prick to everyone. One day he started bullying one of my buddies who proceeded to beat the shit out of him. He told his football coach he ran into a mailbox on his bike when he had to explain his face looking like it did. After that he was the nicest kid ever - he realized "being tough" wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I guarantee a few of these kids just need to get punched in the face one time and they'll start rethinking the "alpha male" ideology.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Beating children into submission might be convenient for you, but its almost certainly not the correct way to handle the situation.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

can you blame boys for aspiring to this

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

What about the picture where he's sat in trunks and there's literally no visible bulge?

[–] LeadLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

King of all the chinless chuds.

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[–] dick_fineman@discuss.online 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fine, just fail them. This is a problem for the parents to address. And if the parents refuse, then they can enjoy having a child who lives off of benefits and aspires to be an "influencer". Lol.

[–] pablodaniel@lemmings.world 4 points 6 days ago

You don't actually need to talk to the teacher to pass a class in most cases.

I don't think the kids doing this are doing well in school anyways, but it is possible to never say a word and still get an A from your schoolwork.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

That is quite a worrying statistic: 41% of young men endorsing a human-trafficking misogynist rapist.

[–] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's even more insane that young women (!!) support a misogynic douchbag. What's wrong with them?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] peekingduck@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago

The funny thing is that people like Tate would be the first to be eaten when the world ends lol

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We're in for a very, very stupid future.

[–] Really_long_toes@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Idiocracy isn't just a great movie that holds up, it's a accurate depiction of the future and it has electrolytes, it's what plants crave

[–] LeadLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

looks around

… the future is now.

[–] Boppel@feddit.org 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

So? You get a F, you get a F, you get a F...

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"That fucking stupid bitch woman teacher gave me an F because (insert misogynistic mental gymnastics to make it her fault for being female here)"

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[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Why do you think handing out massive numbers of "F"s will change these kids' behavior?

That might work when there's only a few kids screwing up and there's social pressure on them to change for the better, but right now the social pressure is going in the opposite direction because of people like Tate. The boys will just say they're getting "F"s because teachers/women/"liberal educators"/whoever just hate boys and masculinity, and people like Tate will validate their views there.

I get that the idea of flunking these kids to "teach them a lesson and show them how wrong they are" might provide a nice, satisfying dopamine hit to you in the moment, but all it's going to do is make the problem worse.

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[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

when i was in school, for that i’d get sent to the principals office, then suspended, and if i kept it up, expelled….

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

If that is where America is heading, to some theocracy like Iran and where men see women as chattel, then I would rather raise children elsewhere there is a culture of empathy.

[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 11 points 6 days ago

I can really recommend the mini series Adolesence on Netflix (or wherever) to get a great, dramatized example of how this effect looks like.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

Dude, I never cared who my teachers were, so long as they weren’t jerks. Even then, I got over it.

[–] nixigaj@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

A lot of young boys had an "edgy" phase. Let's hope this is somewhat true here as well.

[–] peekingduck@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

The kind of people that think Tate is a hero should be snuffed out lol

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