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[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Congratulations from Australia initiative hope ths weekend we make the same choice

[–] g0nz0li0@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

1000% agree.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 120 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

We were headed down the conservative path, strange to think that the Trump regime saved our asses by being so insufferably horrible that the entire country woke up. Very grateful today that we have a functional adult behind the wheel during this difficult period

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Liberals won by less than a million votes.

Does this map suggest that is going to happen again?

Some Americans avoided voting for Democrats because Israel.

Some Canadians avoided voting liberal because "we need change.".

It stops being politics when neo-fascists take over. Then it becomes survival. When your government wages war on YOU, the people.

Just ask the Americans.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 1 points 48 minutes ago

I fucking hate "it's time for a change".

Liberals are a 3 day old deli sandwich. And when Canadians say they want change the Conservatives show up telling you they're warm, fresh, and all-natural. Somehow half the population fails to recognize its horse shit!

Our 2.1 party system is what needs to change, and we need to be increasingly vocal about how high a priority that needs to be.

[–] bloooooort@sh.itjust.works 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We’re still heading towards a conservative path, although a more moderate one, with carney being center-right, and the conservatives holding almost half the seats.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Canada's saving grace is that we have more than two parties. Liberals can't rely on the conservatives being worst than them as much as the Democrats do with the Republicans.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 49 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Still, over 40% of Canadians voters wanted pp. That number is too high. Also fuuuuuuuuck fptp

[–] Moose@moose.best 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Super pissed off FPTP is still a thing. My riding was quite interesting this year. Polls showed a safe conservative win with NDP slightly behind and liberals at barely anything. What actually happened was a huge number of liberal votes compared to what was expected and less conservative and NDP votes as a result. The conservatives won with only ~38% of the vote vs the over 50% they were showing in the polls. I can almost garuntee that if we had ranked choice, either NDP or liberals would have won. It's very frustrating as I'm certain a lot of the left leaning voters were focusing on a national level and not a local one.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

A common occurrence it feels like

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

Most wanted change and not Peter rabbithair.

We need electoral reform in Canada.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Over 40% wanted some aspect of the vote. Local Candidate, party or leader or other aspects. His own riding didn't want him. Lol! :D

Others still just didn't like the other parties as options. Extreme fringe elements like the various flavours of white supremacists just clung to something that would embrace them under the big tent.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Extreme fringe elements like the various flavours of white supremacists just clung to something that would embrace them under the big tent.

You're correct, but because the leaders of the party aren't actively distancing themselves from those fringe groups, they are complicit

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

Absolutely. I did say "embraced".

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I... I can't envision a world where conservatism doesn't beget more conservatism..

What a strange utopia you Canadians have

It is amazing to witness a nation learning from another nation's mistake. It's such a smart, sensible thing to do. Voters in Canada were able to identify a pattern, imagine the consequences happening to themselves, and make a decision to not do the same failed thing as the U.S.

That's gotta be a crucial distinction between Canada and the U.S.

Here in the U.S., people ignore and downplay patterns (especially if the patterns hurt their feelings.) When pressed to explain an identical set of patterns, we're more likely to blame whoever is experiencing the patterns for causing them than to critically analyze the cause and effect surrounding them. [Examples I've heard through my life: "Poor people suffer because they're drug addicts." "Women don't get paid as much as men do because women are worse workers than men." "Black people live in violent neighborhoods because they're inherently violent."]

Too many of us are entrenched in the propaganda-sphere; we are too arrogant, vocal, and either unwilling or unable to engage in critical thought against our zeitgeist. I imagine that if the situation were flipped and Canada had been the first to fall to fascism, the U.S. would still follow. After all, if another country messed up, it's because they did it wrong. But we're too special, too important, Too Big to Fail™, so we could do the exact same thing and be confident that [consequence] could never happen to us.

Lotsa shocked Pikachu faces going around these days...

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

Well that and Lil'PP not being able to distance himself from his "Trump-lite" image because that would have turned away a big chunk of his base.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Good job Canada voting sensibly!

P.S. Sorry from America.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Thanks for voting in Trump so we didn’t get Pierre Poilievre

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

I came here to also give kudos to Canada. Well said

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, it's a shame how many people didn't vote.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

America has given the planet one final gift. An example of what not to turn your country into. Australia is next, and their conservative moment is dying out as well.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

GOP knows trump is their last hold on power, so they do everything they can to grift as much and hold on as long as possible before they all retire.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 24 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Our conservative movement didn’t die out, they got more votes this time than the last few times and the popular vote was split down the middle.

We have more right wing media than centrist or neutral or left wing combined, and much of it is USA owned.

This all happened at the expense of the moderate left and the extreme right. If we don’t ditch our first past the post electoral system we risk Americanized politics.

[–] Vathsade@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This has many similarities to how the Canadian Federal election ended up. The conservatives actually grew by more than any other group, the Liberals just barely got a minority win. Their gain came at the sacrifice of our 3 other major parties (though almost always smaller than the other 2), turning Canada more into a 2 party running. Ranked choice is sorely needed to save our multi-party system, but the 2 big parties fear they'll both lose big of they implement that, and they're probably right...

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Vathsade@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

Ah, sorry for any confusion.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

yes but the maga flavour of conservatism got the leader of its party tossed twice over

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

i want to believe this so i hope that you some articles to back this up.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

It's not a betrayal. Americans - particularly conservatives - have always held contempt for the Canadian government and its people. Trump said the quiet part out loud. But all those jokes about "America's Hat" and "51st State" were coming from people who genuinely do not see Canada as a sovereign territory or an independent constituency.

Hopefully, Canadians are waking up to the reality that huge swaths of America view them with the same contempt more explicitly aimed at Mexicans, Cubans, Haitians, Indians and other browner neighbors and migrant workers. We're an evil empire, and you collaborate with us at your own peril.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've never experienced any negative opinions of Canada until the current administration. Instead, everyone I have encountered saw Canadians as remarkably similar to Americans (but much nicer) and held them in high regard.

I've been stunned by the change in some members of the population, especially church-goers.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

People go to church explicitly to be told how to think and feel so they don’t have to, and they can feel like they belong. That this group was susceptible should not surprise anyone.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 17 hours ago

Church is bad for society

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

You're not wrong! I worded that poorly. It should have read:

~~especially~~ mostly (all?) church-goers

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly I doubt many are seeing this considering how many of my neighbours still voted for PP. I'm happy to see a Liberal minority, but disgusted by how much support the cons still have.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Canada is still awash in far-right mass media. A lot of it is coming from over the border, to boot. Until Canadians liberate themselves from the American yoke, they're going to be force fed this trash to their detriment indefinitely.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

A guy near my home is flying two American flags in front of his house. The thing is, we're in Canada…

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

When we send our media, we're not sending our best. :(

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

I've heard us called snow ni**ers by Americans more than once. It's disgusting. They truly think they are exceptional.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mexico and Canada politicians: "It's good to have a common enemy"

America: "We're the common enemy?"

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Like when the Dimoks and Ripoblus finally united.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

America is lead by Benedict Orange Turd.

[–] Skellysgirl@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

So you think the 40% is all made up of conservatism or could it be disillusion with what the parties are offering?

Is it really support of conservative? Even labelling it as support of far right when people are frustrated and choosing to protest vote can have a tone of condescension which can do more harm than good.

I am as annoyed as everyone else about the orange turdbag but ignoring root causes (in any country) is gonna eventually take a toll.

[–] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 21 hours ago

Considering almost all Canadian media is owned by the US and the desperate push for PP by propagandists, I think it turned out about as good as can be expected.

30% of the population are just terrible people who are easily swayed by lies and propaganda (the same as in other countries). The rest are just regular Conservative "I've got mine" shitheads.

The solution is to stop the propaganda, not appease the idiots or we'll end up like the US anyway. Canada already has the laws it just has to enforce them.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

so what is it that they want? and why does it seem our resposibility to figure out and please these grown people who can't articulate their demands?

suddenly it seems that badgering lgbt and minorities is something we owe these people

[–] Skellysgirl@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

For me it’s in the conversations I have. Making them calm discussions with others about their goals helping them come to conclusions about the consequence (more to those they love than themselves) and trying to bring them back down to their real wants rather than what the media has them riled up about. Most people have benefitted from progressive movements they just forget how much.

Nostalgia, and frustration at avenues to personally moving forward seem to be a hurdle for some people. I am older, I have benefitted for the world of tech and science. I really feel for our younger gens. They can’t afford to live, homes are out of reach, job security and respect is sliding. This puts relationships, families and self worth at risk. I can see how radical ideas take root.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 8 points 1 day ago

Good job Canada!!!

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