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[–] Roundeyegweilo@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

My son is going to be sad that we don't use duo anymore

[–] Nightsoul@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If you looking to replace dualingo, check with your local library, they may offer free access to different language learning apps. I was able to get Rosetta Stone for free using my library. And they also have access to Muzzy and Transparent language.

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Let's also replace the customers by AI, that way the whole system will really be "AI first" and self-sufficient.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

it's a matter of time (or more likely has already happen) where an AI company ends up having only AI users, it makes money be selling adds to show to the users, which are all AI bots, and then selling those bots as user data.

then said company celebrates that it has no humans involved making a shit ton of profit.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So they've killed themselves before adding Armenian.

Makes sense.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As an Armenian with family murdered by the Turks. What was the point of this?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Trying to help Duolingo add Armenian is something I've read about in 2018 or something like that, and it's still there. They are very firmly not interested.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well that’s some BS. Why the fuck don’t they have Armenian? Are they Turkish run?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I dunno, but there were plenty of volunteers. Eastern Armenian is far from a dead language after all. Especially when comparing to Icelandic or Welsh. Those are awesome languages too, though, alongside Coptic and Assyrian.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I was also hoping they would add Afrikaans.

[–] madgepickles@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

i cancelled my subscription and told them why

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 38 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So if they're using a ChatGPT wrapper to teach me languages, why do I need Duolingo? Copilot is free.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Copilot is free.

Free.

Free with ads.

Freemium with ads.

Free trial with tiered subscription service.

New subscription tiers with reduced ads. Premium package for boosts to service.

Please enter your credit card number and watch the ad to unlock device.

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago

Please drink verification can to continue..

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

If it's free you are the product.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So is there any Duolingo alternative that teaches Esperanto and Indonesian?

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Esperanto you can learn on lernu.net

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Apparently they've already been incorporating it and it's very inaccurate. I've decided to stop using them and have switched to LingoDeer and MemRise. Really pleased with how much better they are.

[–] Blemgo@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I can also recommend Pimsleur. A bit more expensive, but features more traditional style courses, while offering a lot of what Duolingo has. Plus actual topics with grammar, not just random words!

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no! How will I pretend to learn a language now? Woe is me.

[–] yum@lemmy.eco.br 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I get the hate for Duolingo, but you can actually learn with it

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 8 points 17 hours ago

Duolingo got me enough vocabulary in Spanish to put the simplest sentences together, and then follow more robust lessons. I still think it was a good starting point, but I won't use it anymore on principle.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 18 hours ago

Right? My partner has used it for years and is now able to read simple to medium books and watch some movies in the learned language.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 142 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Duolingo has enshittified so much over the last few years.

Even if I had the ability to become a millionaire tech founder, I don't think I'd want to because every "I want to make learning new languages free and easy for everyone" becomes a "I have to drive 3% more ad revenue this quarter by charting my users' every bowel movement".

I suspect the reality of being a rich tech bro is watching your adult self slowly consume your own childhood dreams, aspirations, and soul.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 71 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Enshittification is not driven by the founders (mostly, fuck Zuckerberg). It's driven by greedy investors who want their billion dollar unicorn payout and who who will risk a hundred company failures to get it.

A lot of tech companies that manage to resist outside investors are doing just fine.

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[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I have found Duolingo much, much less useful for language learning than Language Transfer. The latter actually helps you learn to think in another language rather than memorize things (which is still useful, but not nearly as much).

Short if total immersion, I have found nothing better than LT.

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 10 points 22 hours ago

The problem I have with finding an alternative is that most just offer some five to ten largest languages. Want to learn Spanish, French, Russian, or Chinese? There are hundreds of both free and paid services available. Want to learn Hungarian, Irish, or Finnish? It’s Duolingo and a scant handful of sites specific to that language.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 190 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Duolingo is a tragedy. They really quickly realized that you don’t make money teaching things - you make it on retention and gamification.

Mango languages is great if your library has a subscription. I believe the US’s foreign service materials are also really good, if you want effective but boring.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 117 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I was so upset last year when they got rid of the comment section. There were often helpful explanations for WHY you conjugate the word that way, or how native speakers might use a different word.

[–] sqibkw@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know how good this feature was on Duolingo, but there's a site/app called HiNative that does a really good job at this sort of thing.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

that looks cool. Thank you for pointing it out!

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yeah, the comment section was amazing...and then they came out with "max", where you get "explain my answer" for a premium, powered by a [notoriously fallible] LLM. This is the definition of enshitification.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago

If you decide to cancel your subscription and delete your account, they give a warning when deleting that says you need to cancel your subscription SEPARATELY. Just a heads up for anyone thinking of leaving like I did.

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