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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/372863

cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 4 points 3 hours ago

Biggest problem with twitter/X is so many companies mess you around until you call them out on it, then things tend to get resolved how they should have been.

I truthfully have always seen that as Twitter/X's only use

Fedi is doing fine whether or not Nazi platforms crumble.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

They're all going to bluesky because for some reason as soon as social media gets involved, the wonderful human ability to pattern match just gets switched off.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

For most people it's unfortunately just " is it like Twitter" - both in terms of accessibility and algorithmic content suggestion.

[–] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

I think a sad part of this is due to people wanting that vapid dopamagic response the algorithm provides.

Is it bad for us? Yes.

But addicts are going to addict 🫤

I know lots of people who made a fediverse account easy enough, but just end up back on the algorithm platforms as there's no effort required for discovery.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I think it's more going to be more like twitter than they're bargaining for.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Except for the fact that most people dont like jumping through multiple hoops to register an account / need to do research beforehand to do it.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If you Google "sign up for mastodon" the first result you get is a sign-up page for mastodon.social which is the default instance. The sign up page is straight forward. I get we're all coddled by iPads or whatever but this argument evades me.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

People don't like to read.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

personally i prefer bluesky just because the interface is more natural to me (and it's just easier - but also because aew twitter is there and there's more fandoms over on it) but i wish more people would embrace bridgyfed so that we don't have to choose.

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

I mean I get it. And network effects are a thing. But these VC backed/owned firms (like bluesky) are cancer. Fascism promoting, lying, grifting, you name it. Can we please just try a little harder to support the community efforts?

[–] elena@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried using elk.zone? It mimics Twitter’s interface and has some great additional features (like zen mode)

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

oh i do like elk.zone and i do use fediverse, i just find myself more active on bsky just because i follow lots more. i have accounts on both and share on both for different reasons.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe they just don't like your pattern, huu-man

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

What, the VC funded tech firm makes lots of noise about not being evil before eventually just becoming evil yet again pattern? Yeah I don't like it either.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Let the pessimism flow through you

[–] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Kind of like how I'd be pessimistic about sticking my fingers in the closing boot of a cybertruck yeah.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

A lot of our biggest communities still have like two mods taking care of everything and are prone to cherry picking. It‘s the same old forum structures where the internet bubble effect is just as strong if not stronger than on larger, already problematic platforms. Some of the things I‘ve seen and experienced lately bring back memories from those internet forum days. Good ones but also the worst ones. And I have to admit it makes me doubt the Fediverse is actually scalable. There‘s just a lack of accountability in the end.

Which is not to say a federalized platform isn‘t an alternative to giant corporations. Those have their own problems and fair share of fuck ups. But I think I‘m already starting to see the limits of the Fediverse. At least in it‘s current stage.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 10 hours ago

The fediverse is much more than just lemmy. That being said i also disagree for lemmy. Drama between mods and communities was a regular thing on reddit. Still reddit managed to grow quite big before the bots took over. And companies are in no way more accountable to the users. Look at what happened with twitter under Musk. The only realistic choice you have as a normal user is to leave. And in the fediverse leaving a shitty instance still allows you to connect with all the other content from a different instance.

[–] eta@feddit.org 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The fediverse is about options. If you don't like how someone else runs their platform or community you can create your own. It's awesome because you don't get locked into one platform. And in the future I think we will see more big companies and organisations running their own stuff. But I agree that at the moment it is not what "normal people" are looking for and it will take quite some time until it develops. But to be fair the same was the case for reddit.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I guess there is a hope that if more people join the Fediverse existing instances and communities won‘t just become more bloated but people create their own alternatives. However I have to say that I have no interest in running one myself. I‘m mostly here to discuss things that pique my interest. Running a community just isn‘t what I‘m here for and I‘m afraid too many people are just like me in that regard and we‘ll create an environment that‘s all too similar to Reddit.

I also don‘t think it‘s good for the platform when people leave a community with a grudge to create a competition „with blackjack and hookers“ style. I want people to come and just create communities because they want to. That‘s where I see a future for the Fediverse.

But I also wouldn‘t want to subscribe to 5 communities about the exact same topic because that would just spam my feed with the same threads probably. However I would actually like to hop between them easily so I don‘t stick around the same few people or have to abandon one for another. A lot would have to change about the way we interact with the platform (UI) and how it‘s connected for this to work though. I‘m thinking about subscribing to topics and it shows you a good mix of communities where overlapping threads are kind of stacked or something and you could swipe cards to see comments from different communities about it or something. This is a tough one to figure out. Might not even be possible at all.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I‘m thinking about subscribing to topics and it shows you a good mix of communities where overlapping threads are kind of stacked or something and you could swipe cards to see comments from different communities about it or something.

This sounds like PieFed

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Haven’t heard of that and will look into that. Thank you.

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