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State lawmakers approved the measure on Wednesday and Gov. Kathy Hochul, a Democrat, is expected to sign it into law.

The bill establishes some rules for the younger guards, including policies that they cannot obtain or use firearms or transport inmates outside of prisons. They also must be supervised when performing “contact roles” with inmates during the first year-and-a-half on the job.

The push to lower the age for correction officers came after guards walked off the job in February while striking to protest poor working conditions. Hochul was forced to deploy the state National Guard to prisons to maintain operations during the strike.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Hire the high school bullies to do their dream job while they're still in high school. I worked at a prison for almost 3 years. You can't be successful by bullying. The inmates outnumber the guards and they work out. It isn't a wrestling match, it's a game of chess. The inmates are always trying to get away with something. You have to be observant, intelligent, patient, and above all you must be fair to all of them. You aren't there to punish them. Being there is their punishment. Your job is to keep them safe, fed, medicated, and entertained so they don't riot and to prevent their escape. High school students playing mind games with 50 year old inmates will get tricked into breaking the law. Once you do that, the inmates own you. You end up working for them. Anyone who has spent time in a prison on either side of the bars knows this.

[–] werty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Who goes for that job anyway? I know one guy who is interested in that kind of work and it's the 8k bonus plus he thinks it would be easy. And they give the bonus to attract the desparate and money hungry because who goes for that job anyway? Who actually wants that job? Seriously?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 57 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The push to lower the age for correction officers came after guards walked off the job in February while striking to protest poor working conditions.

Fuck's sake.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

If the working conditions were poor, i could only imagine how the conditions were for the inmates 😶

[–] Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've got an idea. Why not let the inmates run the asylum?

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

Let the prisoners run the prison? Absolutely not.

Force the prisoners to fill the labour shortage? Well now you're spreading their language.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 32 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Improve working conditions? Pay a proper wage? Naah, lets just encourage people who are barely not kids anymore to do the job.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

$58,000 to start. $75,000 after seven years.

https://doccs.ny.gov/employment/correction-officer-trainee

I'm surprised they aren't getting flooded; plenty of cops in rural America don't make that much.

edit =https://govsalaries.com/salaries/deputy-sheriff-salary/alabama

Turns out I was wrong. Alabama deputies make as much and have an easier job in a safer environment.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

https://dol.ny.gov/new-york-state-average-weekly-wage-nysaww-0

That amounts to about 95k annually as the average yearly wage. So why should someone settle for less than 80% of the average wage after 7 years for working in a high physical and emotional stress and hazard environment?

https://joinstatepolice.ny.gov/salary-benefits

State police trooper makes 114k-124k after 5 years.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

https://govsalaries.com/salaries/deputy-sheriff-salary/alabama

You are correct. An Alabama deputy makes about that much with an easier job.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’d rather be a cop in rural America. 58k is not much in New York and everyone you deal with wants to kill you.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Someone said that if you work in corrections for 20 years it's like spending 7 years behind bars.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like whoever said that only considered that they were inside the prison, and not which side of the bars they were on

I work in a 5* hotel, but I dont feel like Im a pampered guest 1/3rd of my day

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

You spend all day waiting for someone to stick a knife in your back and everyone you talk to is trying to play you.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago

yeah let's put some 18-year-olds in charge of violent criminals that'll go well

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I know 18 is the age of majority and adult responsibility, but it's both my observation and my personal experience that you're not ready for that kind of responsibility until you have a few years of being an adult under your belt.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Science - the actual, y'know, science - says the human brain isn't fully formed until early 20s.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Their decision making abilities aren't also fully developed and I can guarantee more prisoners will be harmed or killed when an 18yo guard feels threatened.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

They won't have guns.

The bill establishes some rules for the younger guards, including policies that they cannot obtain or use firearms or transport inmates outside of prisons.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

This'll go well

[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 13 points 8 hours ago

Kids shouldn't have power. Kids are stupid and cruel.