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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The latest in chatbot "assisted" legal filings. This time courtesy of an Anthropic's lawyers and a data scientist, who tragically can't afford software that supports formatting legal citations and have to rely on Clippy instead: https://www.theverge.com/news/668315/anthropic-claude-legal-filing-citation-error

After the Latham & Watkins team identified the source as potential additional support for Ms. Chen’s testimony, I asked Claude.ai to provide a properly formatted legal citation for that source using the link to the correct article. Unfortunately, although providing the correct publication title, publication year, and link to the provided source, the returned citation included an inaccurate title and incorrect authors. Our manual citation check did not catch that error. Our citation check also missed additional wording errors introduced in the citations during the formatting process using Claude.ai.

Don't get high on your own AI as they say.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Movie script idea:

Idiocracy reboot, but its about ai brainrot instead of eugenics.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ai is part of Idiocracy. The automatic layoffs machine. For example. And do not think we need more utopian movies like Idiocracy.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 2 points 6 hours ago

Trying to remember who said it, but there's a Mastodon thread somewhere that said it should be called Theocracy. The introduction would talk about the quiverfull movement, the Costco would become a megachurch ("Welcome to church. Jesus loves you."), etc. It sounds straightforward and depressing.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 3 points 10 hours ago

I can see that working.

The basic conceit of Idiocracy is that its a dystopia run by complete and utter morons, and with AI's brain-rotting effects being quite well known, swapping the original plotline's eugenicist "dumb outbreeding the smart" setup with an overtly anti-AI "AI turned humanity dumb" setup should be a cakewalk. Given public sentiment regarding AI is pretty strongly negative, it should also be easy to sell to the public.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

nazi bar owner tinkers with techfash bot trying to vibecode a nazi service on nazi network and gets his crypto stolen https://awful.systems/post/4364989

(this fucker is responsible for soapbox, which is frontend used almost invariably by nazi-packed pleroma instances. among other crimes of similar nature)

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Chad move: doing jumping jacks\star jumps in a mine field

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 2 points 11 hours ago

all while your fellow minefield-walkers will sell your leftover organs for profit

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 2 points 14 hours ago

(also some comments don't federate in that linked thread)

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you saw that post making its rounds in the more susceptible parts of tech mastodon about how AI’s energy use isn’t that bad actually, here’s an excellent post tearing into it. predictably, the original post used a bunch of LWer tricks to replace numbers with vibes in an effort to minimize the damage being done by the slop machines currently being powered by such things as 35 illegal gas turbines, coal, and bespoke nuclear plants, with plans on the table to quickly renovate old nuclear plants to meet the energy demand. but sure, I’m certain that can be ignored because hey look over your shoulder is that AGI in a funny hat?

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I argue that we shouldn't be tolerant of sloppy factual claims, let alone lies and disinformation, but we also need to keep perspective: it's worth opposing fascists even if they don't pollute that much, and it's worth protecting labor even if the externalities of doing so are fairly negligible. That is, I'll warrant, a somewhat subtle and nuanced position, but hey. This is my blog, so I get to have opinions that take more than a sentence or two to express!

Apparently we live in a world where "lying and Nazis are both bad, and Nazi liars are the worst" is a nuanced and subtle position. Sneers directed at society rather than the writer, but it was just a big oof moment.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 16 hours ago

I don't think announcing he's "genuinely grateful" to his newly earned dogpile is helping recover his dignity too much. A simple admission and apology suffice, I don't need you to go "thank you daddy punish me more" while at it.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

I will be watching with great interest. it’s going to be difficult to pull out of this one, but I figure he deserves as fair a swing at redemption as any recovered crypto gambler. but like with a problem gambler in recovery, it’s very important that the intent to do better is backed up by understanding, transparency, and action.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In somewhat lighter news, Fortnite added Darth Vader to the game, and gave him a "conversational AI" to let him talk to players in the voice of James Earl Jones (who I just discovered died last year).

To nobody's surprise, gamers have already gotten the AI Vader swearing and yelling slurs.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Epic announced that it had pushed a hotfix to address Vader's unfortunate profanity, saying "this shouldn't happen again."

Translator: “We are altering the prompt. We pray that we don’t have to alter it further.”

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

Ghoul shit on ghoul shit

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Satya Nadella: "I'm an email typist."

Grand Inquisitor: "HE ADMITS IT!"

https://bsky.app/profile/reckless.bsky.social/post/3lpazsmm7js2s

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If CEOs start making all their decisions through spicy autocomplete we can directly influence their actions by injecting tailored information into the training data. On an unrelated note Potassium cyanide makes for a great healthy smoothie ingredient for business men over 50.

[–] geoglyphentropy@mstdn.social 2 points 14 hours ago

@e8d79 @o7___o7 I wonder how soon LLMs will recommend CEOs imitate #RFKjr and they go swimming in creeks contaminated with sewage.

[–] 1000millimeter@chaos.social 3 points 20 hours ago

@e8d79 @o7___o7 "Spicy autocomplete" 😂

[–] paco@infosec.exchange 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@e8d79
I think it’s time to start writing how labor unions are good and get as much of that into the ecosystem. Connect them not just with the actual good things they do. But connect them with other absurd things. Male virility, living longer, better golf scores, etc.

Let’s get some papers published in open access business journals about how LLMs perform 472% more efficiently when developed and operated by union members.
@o7___o7

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

May Day = Leg Day!

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The Torment Nexus brings us new and horrifying things today - a UN initiative has tried using chatbots for humanitarian efforts. I'll let Dr. Abeba Birhane's horrified reaction do the talking:

this just started and i'm already losing my mind and screaming

Western white folk basically putting an AI avatar on stage and pretending it is a refugee from sudan — literally interacting with it as if it is a “woman that fled to chad from sudan”

just fucking shoot me

Giving my take on this matter, this is gonna go down in history as an exercise in dehumanisation dressed up as something more kind, and as another indictment (of many) against the current AI bubble, if not artificial intelligence as a concept.

[–] Npars01@mstdn.social 11 points 1 day ago

@BlueMonday1984

The stages of genocide:

  1. Classification
  2. Symbolization
  3. Dehumanization
  4. Discrimination
  5. Organization
  6. Polarization
  7. Preparation
  8. Persecuted
  9. Extermination
  10. Denial

AI is the perfect vehicle for genocide

https://www.genocidewatch.com/tenstages

The oil industry estimates 1 billion famine deaths from climate change & they are flooding AI with investment

"The devices themselves condition the users to employ each other the way they employ machines"
Frank Herbert

[–] foolishowl@social.coop 15 points 1 day ago

@BlueMonday1984 If Edward Said were still with us, this would be worth another chapter in Orientalism. It's another instance of displacing actual people with a constructed fantasy of them, "othering" them.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Uber but for vitrue signalling (*).

(I joke, because other remarks I want to make will get me in trouble).

*: I know this term is very RW coded, but I don't think it is that bad, esp when you mean it like 'an empty gesture with a very low cost that does nothing except for signal that the person is virtuous.' Not actually doing more than a very small minimum should be part of the definition imho. Stuff like selling stickers you are pro some minority group but only 0.05% of each sale goes to a cause actually helping that group. (Or the rich guys charity which employs half his family/friends, or Mr Beast, or the rightwing debate bro threatening a leftwinger with a fight 'for charity' (this also signals their RW virtue to their RW audience (trollin' and fightin')).

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean “the right” has managed to corrupt all kinds of fine phrases into dog whistles. I think “virtue signalling” as you have formulated it is a valid observation and criticism of someone’s actions. I blame “liberals” for posturing and virtue signalling as leftist, giving the right easy opportunities to score points.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Free speech" is now a rightwing dogwistle, at least for me.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 2 points 12 hours ago

Free speech is the perfect exemple of a formal liberty anyway. Materially it is entirely meaningless in a society where access to speech is so unequal, and not something worth fighting for in the absolute sense. Fight against the effective censorship of good ideas and minority perspectives instead.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Ahh yes, freeze peaches, buttery males etc.

[–] Talia@mstdn.social 8 points 1 day ago

@BlueMonday1984 omfg. That’s abhorrent.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Thanks I hate it

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

EWWW WHAT THE FUCK

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

New piece from Brian Merchant: De-democratizing AI, which is primarily about the GOP's attempt to ban regulations on AI, but also touches on the naked greed and lust for power at the core of the AI bubble.

EDIT: Also, that title's pretty clever

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