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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 3 hours ago

Good for them.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

It should have been clear when the police was cracking down on the university protests in 2024.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh, it opens with a 6min unskippable video. instead of an article, on a website that still has the line "Today's Paper" at the top of the page.

At this point I'm convinced that the NYT is living in the 2000s.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 83 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

We need an "I'm an academic expert on fascism. Of you see me running try and keep up" tee shirt

[–] M137@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

If you see me running, try to keep up*

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 28 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My therapist called me a canary in the coal mine. I'm trans, I have the means to move, basically it was a "if you leave suddenly I'll know things have gotten really bad". I've almost gotten everything lined up to move on a plan but I'm still keeping my bug out bag around in case something bad enough happens I need to leave day of to try and get past the border

[–] vimmiewimmie@lemm.ee 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ehhmm.. Would you happen to need a live in maid, assistant, gardener, groundskeeper..anything wherever you end up? Asking for a friend.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Straight up if I find a place with enough space and I can afford the rent, I'm going to try and bring in another person and give them free or greatly reduced rent. I can't help with the residency permit stuff but helping someone land is the least I can do

[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

You are a kind soul. We need more of you.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 20 points 11 hours ago

Must be nice.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Good idea - it's best to study fascism from a healthy distance.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 43 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I'm glad you have the privilege to do so, I suppose.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Well, why don't the 250 million Americans who didn't vote for trump just also move to Canada???

[–] Emergency3030@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Would be nice but you can't simply move to any other country you want. Other countries have enacted similar stupid immigration laws just like the US. There isn't a single country where US citizens can just move (except the US of course). It's like a curse. The orange in the WH would need to do something really f'ed for other countries to accept american asylum applications. personally I wish I could just bag and go

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Someone once told me to just apply to be a refugee and move to Canada, as a response to complaining about trump supporters in my area. They weren't even a trump supporter themselves. Bruh, I doubt Canada wants my disabled and out of work ass, even if it was just that simple.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

No, they dont,
just like how the US doesn't want the dumbshit "my way or the highway" western canadian separatists.

immigration is difficult, you've got to be extremely rich, smart and highly skilled in a marketable and demanded field, or lucky.

most people are none of these things

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You can't apply for refugee status from the US to Canada anyway

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You don't need refugee status to move somewhere tho. In the case of Canada you mostly just need to prove you can support yourself, and pass an English or French proficiency test.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Not that simple, no.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html

From the US you would need to be skilled in something that we need, otherwise you can start as a tourist for 6 months and you need to apply to stay longer. Just because you can support yourself (let's say you work remotely for a US company while living in Canada) it doesn't mean that you can stay just because you speak English.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

considering the actions of the current administration it would have probably been better to publish this after leaving the US

I suspect they're willing to take the risk to try and warn others. This is sort of a middle ground approach. They're banking on Trump not being able to retaliate in time before they leave the country, he's moving fast, but he's not at the imprison political opponents stage yet. He will be soon, but they've got some time.

In the meantime, it serves as a warning to us and others to get out if you can.

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago

Well, that was a little terrifying

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

To be fair many of the US media outlets, among which is also the New York Times often refused to call out the utter nonsense that Trump was spewing during the campaign. This is also a reason it has come to the current situation.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Well we all know that Fascism experts are the least important people to have around when Fascism takes over a country.

Technically you can criticize from afar but it's good to have fascism experts on the front lines.

This is also an incredibly privileged thing to be able to do and one that the vast majority of the most vulnerable and likely to be on the camp list are stuck here and would like some experts to help fight back.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The thing they are good for us as a canary in a coal mine, which is why they publish this.

Most miners would act when the candy dies out of experience. Most people with poor understanding of history lack the experience.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 11 hours ago

Well we all know that Fascism experts are the least important people to have around when Fascism takes over a country.

Historically nobody fucking listens to fascism experts so yeah that's true. Looking at the pace Trump is democracy at and the state of "resistance" to his regime, I'd bail too, and I didn't spend my whole career studying the horrors of fascism.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 24 points 15 hours ago
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 11 hours ago

Took them long enough.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world -5 points 8 hours ago

"Fascist expert", hm like, a historian ? lol sorry I don't speak the nytimes-language