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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 304 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Fuck NBC for labeling their protest as "pro Gaza" instead of the much more accurate "anti-genocide". I realize that our media is almost entirely owned by like 12 billionaires, but it still chafes.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 87 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They stopped saying pro-hamas so we might get there, one day..

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Saying “pro-Gaza” in my opinion is code for bigot. At this point there is nothing you can do to justify why those people have to be killed. No reason to justify why they can’t have land to live on. No reason why caring about fellow humans is a the wrong side.

If you are defending the right for the state of Israel to commit genocide (which apparently isn’t the worst crisis on this planet according to a BBC kyron from April I saw quoting the UN; it was about Sudan I believe) by continuing to wipe out Palestinian people, for existing, you are not a good person.

Therefore, switching pro-Hamas to pro-Gaza is literally acknowledging that they are no longer covering up the lie. These people used to lump everyone in with Hamas when there is historical evidence that the Palestinian people are not a monolith which supported the terror group. In fact there is historical evidence that politicians in Israel have always meant for the two groups to be equated. All the label changing does is tell you that they have hatred for people living in Gaza.

The same applies to Israel and the Jewish people. Just because someone does not agree with the actions of the Israeli government and/or military, does not mean they have hatred towards Jewish people. That unfairly puts actual Jewish people into a group of antisemites. Being anti-Israeli ≠ antisemitism. Being anti-Jewish = antisemitism.

I really wish the world could be a place where humans were respected as individuals who should exist because they are all different. Instead history shows that lots of us believe humans should only be respected as individuals because they are the same. No. We should respect each other because we are different. That doesn’t mean I need to like you or accept what you do as a person. But your existence should be seen as beautiful. I should be able to celebrate the fact you are different from me in many ways. We don’t have to get along but you as a person belong here. No one should tell you that your race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sex, gender, political beliefs, etc. mean your kind should cease to exist. I’m not saying that you need to love the bigot that lives next door, but that you can respect that they exist and that there are many more people who are uniquely different.

IDIC

Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Long after the Palestinian people have been exterminated

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 14 points 4 days ago

The clip I saw was him yelling about feeding kids in Gaza and pointing out that they were stripping Medicaid from poor kids here. It's such a deceitful way to frame it.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago

I fucking hate it.

Unless you express breathless support for Netanyahu you're an anti-semitic pro-hamas scum bag.

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[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 149 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Wait, has Ben & Jerry's always been this based?

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 150 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure they endorsed Bernie back in the day. They're definitely hippies.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Shame that whole "peace and love" thing didn't catch on

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The hippie movement was coopted by the elites early on, which is why they stopped talking about economic justice and focused more on concepts like "free love", "equality", drug use, and other cultural focuses.

Those hippies (namely Steve Jobs) later went on to define our current Big Tech industry.

Meanwhile, when a strong leader arises who starts to sound a little too much like a socialist (MLK Jr.), the state murders them.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

MLK has a good rep today because of the non violence. Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were just as if not more influential for change, but they're completely ignored in schools and media today.

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For anyone who grew up learning about MLK Jr and not Malcolm X -

I'd recommend a book called "The Sword and The Shield"! I thought it did a dope job comparing and contrasting the two figures. Importantly, MLK Jr was way more radical than many of us were taught in school, and by the end of his life he was changing his approach, having been forced to acknowledge that non-violence alone wasn't going to cut it. In other words he became more aligned with Malcolm's principles and beliefs as he watched the civil rights movement struggle and falter, and I believe this is ultimately why he was killed.

And then our lords and masters de-fanged his legacy, teaching generations of kids only the non-violence, giving millions the false idea that non-violence alone is enough, and not just enough, but the preferred and historically-proven method of achieving change.

It never has been and never will be, non-violence is only effective alongside credible threats of violence (at a minimum), and Martin and Malcolm both knew that to their core. That book helped me correct what was a confusing hole in my understanding of the world.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the book recommendation!

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

You're very correct, but that's not the point I was trying to make.

Also schools definitely cover Malcom X and the Black Panthers just as much as MLK Jr., or at least my public school did.

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

That wasn't my experience whatsoever and to me yours sounds uncommon. Not being combative with you, I promise, I just worry and wonder how successfully Malcolm X (et al.) has been whitewashed from history.

Edit: redundancy

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Both Malcolm X and MLK Jr. (and every other civil rights activist throughout history) have been severely whitewashed in general.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

I would argue Malcom X might be more demonized than white washed. They told me his violence was why he didn't succeed.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago

Not my experience. Maybe briefly covered Malcolm, but if we learned anything about him and/or the Black Panthers at all, it was always in a negative light.

I had never even heard the name "Fred Hampton" until I was in college.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 5 days ago

I wasn't countering you, just adding my voice to your plea.

That's good that those were covered for you. I can tell you the coverage on that in my corner of the South is absolutely lacking.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think we forget that the peace/love hippie generation is the same one that's been leading America for the last 30 years.

[–] KumaSudosa 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I think we forget that generations aren't monoliths but rather the product of a pluralistic world.

I still hear "don't worry the old people will die out" as if young people can't be morons and don't vote, say, far-right

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Yes.

Colin Kaepernick's flavor slaps. And not just because it pissed off Conservatives. It's one of their best flavors.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes. Which is why I don't mind spending 8 fucking dollars on a pint of Cherry Garcia every now and then (it is really good though).

The parent company that bought them a while back, Unilever, sucks though. Part of their agreement included making sure they wouldn't interfere with their political activism.

Well, they did. I think they're currently in court over it.

[–] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

Ben & Jerry’s gives out free ice cream at various progressive protests here in Australia. It is delicious and amazing for morale.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think there was something I read about current leadership being not as good or something, so look into that, but this guy at least is fucking cool so far.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 6 days ago

The former owners are not the brand. Only the name is the same.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don’t remember the exact debate but Unilever (who purchased the brand at some point) is trying to make changes but the company is supposed to have its own say per their agreement.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 6 days ago

Pretty much, yeah. Although they did sell their company to Unilever, so the company itself is not so based.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 days ago
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[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 79 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you watch the video the cops assault the protestors which is so crazy. I get you can remove the people and am not surprised cops acted this way it's just so disgusting to see.

[–] prototypez9er@lemmynsfw.com 52 points 6 days ago

ACAB wasn't made up for fun

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Pro-Israeli genociders to anyone who might take offense to genocide: "just lie back and let it happen"

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 40 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Officers physically removed Cohen and six other pro-Gaza protesters, and charged them with crowding, obstructing and incommoding — a misdemeanor offense. It is against the law to protest inside congressional buildings. All but Cohen also faced charges of resisting arrest and assault on a police office, Capitol Police said.

Deal offer incoming.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

assault on a police office

Understandable: those damn demonstrators hitting the officers' fists with their faces was really nasty.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago

Good trouble.

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ben & Jerry’s parent company is Unilever. Their stock is currently 60.60 usd. Let’s see if it climbs after this.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unilever is a shitty company.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

For some inexplicable reason I am really craving ice cream right now.

oh hell yeah. Ben was always the good one, he came to my school and talked about how selling out to evil ass Unilever allowed them to actually do a lot of charity work. Jerry was nowhere to be found.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cool but won’t buy your ice cream. Sold to a conglomerate.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Guess ill eat some more b&j

[–] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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