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Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett triggered fierce backlash from MAGA loyalists after forcefully questioning the Trump administration's top lawyer and voicing skepticism over ending birthright citizenship during a heated Supreme Court argument.

Since taking office, Donald Trump has pushed for an executive order to end birthright citizenship, a constitutional guarantee under the 14th Amendment that grants automatic U.S. citizenship to anyone born on American soil.

During oral arguments, Barrett confronted Solicitor General Dean John Sauer, who was representing the Trump administration, over his dismissive response to Justice Elena Kagan's concerns. Barrett sharply asked whether Sauer truly believed there was "no way" for plaintiffs to quickly challenge the executive order, suggesting that class-action certification might expedite the process.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It was never about the Constitution with MAGA.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The "patriots" want nothing but the destruction of everything they claim to love and worship with regards to America, the Constitution, etc, etc.

All so they can put a emotionally unstable manbaby pants shitting pedophile and rapist on a golden throne as god-fuhrer.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Cult-like behavior. Literally. "You're with us all the way and must always back anything Dear Leader does or says. If you disagree with anything, you must be kicked out, expelled, recalled, fired, or voted out!" It's absolutely psychotic to view the world in such zero-sum, black/white terms.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I seem to recall the right wailing about cancel culture not too long ago...

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

No see - it’s all about who’s doing the thing. Words are all made up anyway, there are just good guys and bad guys.

Remember how “precedent” stopped them from allowing Obama to appoint a new Supreme Court judge as a lame duck, but the same logic didn’t apply to Trump?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the result of normalizing the practice of religiously indoctrinating children and leaded gasoline.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Cult-like behavior.

They want a policy and they're loudly advocating that any politicians standing in their way get removed.

The thing they're asking for is awful. But God Damn, this is the kind of FDR/LBJ style titty twisting that any major legislation needs in order to happen in this country.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

More proof the right wing does not, nor have they ever, given one flying fuck about the Constitution that they go on so much about.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like they'd already been conditioned to be outraged about some other selectively-ignored sacred text…

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

How have I never made this connection? That's gonna be my facepalm of the year I think...it's so very obviously the exact same behavior.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have only read one of the amendments all the way through and part of another one and the rest is too boring to read.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Curious which ones? I don't think they read all of the Second. The ding-a-lings certainly never read the First and actually understand it, because they keep acting like this is a "Christian" country, when the First says I don't have to give two shits about the chosen lifestyle of the xtian book club. Meaning I most definitely have freedom FROM religion.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One in full is the second amendment, one they read partially is the first because they know FREE SPEECH and nothing else.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

They only read part of the 2A, as well, and none of the context in the rest of the document about it, either.

The whole "well regulated militia", and who and why the militia is.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Somedays I really have to question whether such people really exist. I mean really? What do they think America is?

Edit: I mean, I get it from the people in power, they want to cozy up to that power and so they will parrot its rhetoric. So companies, lobbyists, etc., sure.

But like, regular people? With day jobs? Who function in regular society going to stores and cooking food and cleaning homes and all that? What is their actual vision of America here?

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

or a bot farm impersonating MAGAs and the press fall for it because nowadays no one verifies anything and X's verification is meaningless since Elon made it so anyone who pays get one, bot or not

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of these "MAGA influencers" are just plants or bot accounts.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But not enough.

77 million people still voted this orange shit-stain into office again. They saw what he'd done before. They saw an attempted coup. They heard all the Nazi-era rhetoric. And they thought "that's the man for us".

[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd say half to 75% regret their vote now

So it's a lot less for how firmly support him. Even less for how many will actually fight for him if civil war breaks out

75 might be hesitant but the media and these influencers are still bending everything they can to sanewash it all. So only about 5 percent would likely admit they regret their vote.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 285 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Imposter? A Justice should have no loyalty but to the law. This isn’t about her opinion. It’s about reading the 14th Amendment.

Want to change it? Go for it. You’ll need half the House, 2/3 of the Senate, and 3/4 of states to amend the Constitution.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 170 points 2 days ago (10 children)

This is the case that seems the most clear out of any in the past few years.

The text of the amendment isn't murky at all.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

There's no way to interpret that being born in the US doesn't convey citizenship.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (48 children)

And that's why the GOP are reframing those deemed undesirable as illegals, invaders, and terrorists. These people by some definitions do not behave as bound to the law of the country they are in.

Any reason to justify what they are doing.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I believe from listening to recent NPR that their lawyers aren't even arguing about that. They are arguing about whether national injunctions can really be national injunctions or not.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yeah - they're trying REALLY hard to not argue the merits because it's extremely clear to anyone that what they're doing is illegal, so they're trying to make it a civil suit issue.

The next step after that is to claim Sovereign Immunity to keep civil suits from being heard.

And then they'll have their legal justification for disappearing US Citizens without due process.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why bother, just sign an EO. /s

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump, "Why the /s? I'll do it."

[–] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 1 day ago

He'll do it, speaker of the house will say "well it's not our job to amend the constitution so if he wants to we have no choice but to support it" and then the Supreme Court will back it 5-4

[–] JollyBrancher@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

THEY CAN TAKE AWAY DRINKING BEING ILLEGAL FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS... My bad. I was just confused, because that was a right once, too.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A Justice should have no loyalty but to the law.

First time reading about the GOP?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (33 children)

My point is that the 14th Amendment is very clear. There’s no room for interpretation as there is with something like a fetus compared to a baby in Roe v. Wade. What they want is to amend the Constitution. That’s a different process entirely.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it wrong that I'm thankful for Amy Coney Barrett? She might be the key to stopping this madness.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 day ago

If we can't have a progressive, Coney-Barrett would be a better chief justice. She seems to at least try to follow the Constitution (most of the time). Eff her for lying about RvW in her confirmation hearing, though. Eff all those guys.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they fast tracked her to the highest court in the country thinking she was properly trained to be their good little soldier

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I don't think fast tracked really covers it. That implies her career was slightly shorter than other justices. In fact, her career basically didn't exist until she became a justice.

[–] QuincyPeck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

She’s certainly performed better than expected. She actually seems to give a damn about the application of law in most cases.

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 97 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You can't "end" a Constitutional amendment with an executive order. That simply isn't how the law works.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 days ago (12 children)

It is if no one stops him. The Constitution doesn't do anything unless people actively uphold it. So far Trump's gotten away with so many things because no one's actually stopping him.

I keep waiting for the American public to take a stand, but apparently they're willing to sit there on the couch while their democracy is stripped away.

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