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Christopher Nolan’s ‘Odyssey’ Will Be the First Blockbuster Shot Entirely on Imax Film Cameras (www.hollywoodreporter.com)
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[–] clove@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Great. Now if he'd invest in some sound techs, microphones, or ADR studio time, he'd be making films that might interest me...

I can understand less than half the dialog in his works, which is pretty frustrating. If I remember correctly he's actually gone on record that this is intentional, too.

[–] philophilsaurus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

Yes, I don’t see how someone would intentionally want to muddy up their mixes so bad. I feel like it’s gotten gradually worse over time too.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah he said some shit like, "I tuned my movies for a decent cinema setup."

Most cinemas do not have a decent audio setup.

[–] clove@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 2 days ago

Haha, yeah! Most home theaters don't have a decent set-up, either. (I sure as heck can't afford that hardware if I can't afford theater tix...) When even headphones don't help me understand the dialog, then something is really wrong in their process. :b

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I LOVE Christopher Nolan because of his artistry and him putting out original movies and all that. Seriously though, me not being able to understand the dialog in his films is so weird. I think people say it's tuned for certain cinemas and I'm watching it in the wrong ones? I don't know about that but it makes for a shitty experience for someone that does still go to the cinema.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

His ADR is horrible. Take Bane in the Dark Knight Rises. He ADRd the voice because of back lash, but he put it front and center on the mix, with no locations at all. It just sounds like a loud voice over, when it should be mixed in with all the other voices. It doesn't matter if Bane is in front of the camera, to the side, off screen, or a mile away - his voice is always full front no matter what.

[–] clove@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haha. I had access to subtitles when I watched Dark Knight, so it wasn't as awful an experience.. For Inception, Tenet, and Interstellar I just had no idea what was even happening, at all. (Bounced off Inception in the first few minutes because I just didn't GAF.) My experiences have been so frustrating I vowed not to watch his stuff until he improved his craft.

Like, I get that he's not interested in anyone else's opinion about his art. That's cool, he should be doing his own thing! But he's making a lot of inaccessible shovelware crap that's gonna be on sale in discount bins in only years, and really truly doesn't care. Bleh!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This i just don't get. I understand everything in all his movies except certain parts of Tenet, which deliberately lowered behind the music.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Same. I had no problem at the cinema and at home. I don't believe I have better hearing than others, or maybe I do and don't know it?

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yeah i’m with you. maybe the dynamics are too extreme but the movies are perfectly understandable.

[–] clove@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know what to tell you. I'm glad your experience was better than mine and you enjoyed them!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

For sure, i wasn't knocking you or anything. Your experience was definitely the same as most. I only wished more people had better experiences.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dialogue is always mixed front centre in 5.1/7.1 mixes.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

If you think that's all sound mixing is... oof

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I appreciate the effort, what's even the fucking point, when there are only a handful of real IMAX theaters left in the entire world? (Less than 30 that still have real 70mm projectors, last time I checked.) Everything else is digital LieMAX bullshit.

Hell, most people who aren't tech-minded don't even know what the hell I'm talking about. Very few people have the opportunity to see a real IMAX film, and even fewer would appreciate the benefits of 70mm film over a digital 4K projection (or 2K if it's an older theater, which is literally 1080p). That's the main thing I'm upset about, that there's almost nowhere left to see a real 70mm projection (and none of the remaining locations are anywhere near me), all because theaters want to save a little bit of money by replacing their projectors with cheap digital garbage with an inferior resolution.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Shipping massive film rolls is a logistical problem. And you can't infinitely copy film rolls either. 70mm in theatres is an outdated format that's not scallable for the future. Although I can see how 70mm improves picture quality even after digitizing to 4K: colors, contrast and dynamic range is much better.