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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29967160
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Could a LLM write that novel in the style of Weir?
If you trained it on his works and gave it the proper vocabulary and grammar rules, quite probably.
Nononono the solution isn't for him to write that novel, it's for him to write "The First Algorithm".
The piece was filed by Marco Buscaglia, who told 404 Media, “I do use AI for background at times but always check out the material first. This time, I did not and I can't believe I missed it because it's so obvious. No excuses. On me 100 percent and I'm completely embarrassed.” He added, “This is just idiotic of me, really embarrassed. When I found it [online], it was almost surreal to see.”
Seems like a reasonable response, but not believable. This was being lazy and putting too much trust in a shortcut. Consequences need to exist, harsh ones, to keep this from occurring more and more.
The Chicago Sun-Times released a brief statement on the matter via social media in response to author Chuck Wendig: “We are looking into how this made it into print as we speak. It is not editorial content and was not created by, or approved by, the Sun-Times newsroom.”
Another lie. From their Union. (https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1krimtw/chicago_suntimes_union_response_to_ai_slop_content/):
I hope you all know we are equally as disgusted and angry about this — and it isn’t lost on us that this comes just months after 20% of our newsroom was lost to buyouts.
They need editorial staff. It was a syndicated peice, not from their Union newsroom, that apparently nobody is staffed to review.
It is depressing to me how many people are so effectively fooled by what can best be described as a glorified parlor trick. It's not intelligence, it's a probable output to a novel input. The hype around LLMs is like watching a magician pull a rabbit out of his hat, and trying to hire him to help you start a rabbit farm. That's not what's happening, and you should know better.
LLMs aren't worthless, they're great for language manipulation, because that's what they are. But just because a string of characters makes a valid sentence in a language, that doesn't mean the sentence is valid in the real world.
To be fair, The Last Algorithm does sound like it could be a gripping tale to an AI.
Only way to fix that is to bribe Andy to write it now.
“The story follows a programmer who discovers that an AI system has developed consciousness — and has been secretly influencing global events for years,”
If I was Andy I'd give it a go. At worst it could be a funny prompt for a short story.
Not an exact match, but Level 5 by Macleod Andrews is in this vein.
That sounds fun. If that was written well I'd probably read that.
It sounds like the AI is dropping hints
If he won't write it, maybe have him use an AI to write it? 🤔
Some author will totally use that book title.
Andy Weir could use that book title, considering hes still alive and writing books lmao
This is Weir, of The Martian fame, who writes well-researched realistic sci-fi. His book Artemis has been less well received, but its fantastic as well and written in the same style
e: idk how I forgot. He also wrote the famous short story The Egg, which is the basis for (and performed as an audio skit) on Logic’s Everybody
He also wrote the webcomic Casey & Andy, which holds up. Imo.
In fairness, it's not a bad title or premise...
Man, just for this false hope we should ban all AI forever.
The psyop here is to convince people that AI is real. In reality computers are not intelligent, but the powerful would love to divest their apparent responsibility.
However, `the computer said I had to do it´ will ultimately fail the Nuremburg Defense
I don’t have to read this article to know exactly what it says
Oh no, we'll miss out on another story featuring a totally-not-a-self-insert Mary Sue le epic Redditor MC single-handedly sciencing the fuck out of everything?
It's almost mandatory to have a Mary Sue in situations where shit hits the fan in space. Otherwise you'll just have a dead character pretty quickly.
Robinson Crusoe wasn't a Mary Sue, and that's the archetype of the genre. Andy is just not a very good writer. In his defence, though, at least he isn't Ernest Cline.
Andy Weir found his genre niche and stuck to it. And within that genre niche, I find he's a competent writer, both technically and I'd say artistically, with strengths and weaknesses. The combination has made his works genuinely enjoyable for me. Ernest Cline, while admittedly not for me, doesn't seem to be in the same league.
Who is Ernest Cline? The Eragon guy?
In addition to Ready Player One (and its sequel), he also wrote this poem. I don't have the adjectives to describe it, so see for yourself:
I've noticed that there don't seem to be any porno movies
that are made for guys like me.
All the porn I've come across
was targeted at beer-swilling sports bar dwelling alpha-males
Men who like their women stupid and submissive
Men who can only get it up for monosyllabic cock-hungry nymphos
with gargantuan breasts and a three-word vocabulary
Adult films are populated with these collagen-injected
liposuctioned women
Many of whom have resorted to surgery and self-mutilation
in an attempt to look the way they have been told to look.
These aren't real women. They're objects.
And these movies aren't erotic. They're pathetic.
These vacuum-headed fuck bunnies don't turn me on.
They disgust me.
And it's not that I'm against pornography.
I mean, I'm a guy. And guys need porn.
Fact.
"Like a preacher needs pain, like a needle needs a vein,"
Guys need porn.
But I don't wanna watch this misogynist he-man woman-hater porn.
I want porno movies that are made with guys like me in mind:
Guys who know that the sexiest thing in the world
is a woman who is smarter than you are.
You can have the whole cheerleading squad,
I want the girl in the tweed skirt and the horn-rimmed glasses:
Betty Finnebowski, the valedictorian.
Oh yes.
First I want to copy her Trig homework,
and then I want to make mad, passionate love to her
for hours and hours
until she reluctantly asks if we can stop
because she doesn't want to miss Battlestar Galactica.
Summa cum laude, baby!
That is what I call erotic.
But do you ever see that kind of a woman in a contemporary adult film?
No.
Which is why I'm going to start writing and directing Geek Porno.
I shall be the quintessential Nerd Porn Auteur.
And the women in my porno movies will be the kind
that drive nerds like me mad with desire.
I'm talking about the girls that used to fuck up the grading curve.
The girls in the Latin Club and the National Honor Society.
Chicks with weird clothes, braces, four eyes, and 4.0 GPAs.
Brainy articulate bookworms, with MENSA cards in their purses
and chips on their shoulders.
My porn starlets will come in all shapes and sizes.
My porn starlets will be too busy working on their PhD to go to the gym.
In my kind of porno movies the girls wouldn't even have to get naked.
They'd just take the guys down to the rec room and
beat them repeatedly at chess
and then talk to them for hours about Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle
or the underlying social metaphors in the Aliens movies.
Buy stock in some hand cream companies
because there is about to be a major shortage.
And I'm not just talking about straight porn. Oh no.
There should be fuck films for my nerd brethren
of all sexual orientations.
Gay nerd porn flicks with titles like "Dungeons and Drag-queens."
This idea is a fucking gold mine.
I am gonna make millions,
because this country is full of database programmers
and electronics engineers
and they aren't getting the loving they so desperately need.
And you can help . . .
If you're an intelligent woman is interested in breaking into the adult film industry,
and if you can tell me the name of Luke Skywalker's home planet,
then you are hired.
It doesn't matter if you think you're overweight or unattractive.
It doesn't matter if you don't think you're beautiful.
You are beautiful. . .
And I will make you a star.
Making me read that is psychological warfare. BRB, I'm going to call Geneva and tell her you are violating her convention.
Ready Player One
Predictive programming, a little bit of priming. I mean science fiction is always kind of been a little truth, little fantasy, you know. All the publishers are consolidated. If your book makes it to the shelf, you know, it goes through certain censors. I mean Hollywood works directly with the Department of Defense and it changes the scripts and the trade-off is they have access to military equipment. America has a problem with idol worship. We have like a savior complex and Hollywood kind of feeds into that. Like the boomers had John Wayne, you know. Everybody is just acting out a character, unself-actualized, and everything that they want is just like a fetish. It is so gross. People lean into things because they're just trying to escape reality, you know. They don't even have the words to describe the dread of living. They have a way of masking and even lying to themselves. Everybody's self-diagnosing themselves and all this nonsense it's just and then it's all about your mental health, your mental health, bitch please we don't care about mental health we just want to say we care about mental health. It's all about managing perception, keep moving forward. The working class never gets anything done because they just watch the shadows dancing on the walls playing out their innermost desires and then they just go back to sleep again. I just think about the allegory of the cave. I know it's like simple and like anybody can use it right to prove their argument. I call it the sofist uno card. I know you are but what am I? And then I think pearls before swine, you know. If they're not ready, they're not ready. I mean you can't just force these things, which is also another conundrum. We live in false paradoxes. And in the labyrinth of stupidity, the Matador chases us out of influence, Out of the halls of power.
The Ready Player One guy.
Here's a funny MST3K-style review of one of his books: http://372pages.com/episode-141-book-24-artemis
Well... Dandelion Wine is real...
To destroy AI is to understand AI's supply chain from the water it uses from the data center that it uses. From the web scraping it uses and then I guess the one impressive thing is the neural network which resembles our brain I guess. You know, I might be bullshitin' cuz like, I don't know nothing about that, but there's something about that I guess. It's kind of like the fucking Wizard of Oz, where these fucking tech bros can turn the dials. It's really a part of the Deep States Dragnet slash CIA Mind Control. But as soon as you start talking like that, they think you're crazy. But there's plenty of documents that are out there. There's plenty of things that expose our government. But sure, I'm the Tin foil hat, man.To me, it's a search engine with more features which aren't really that good because it gives you disinformation and then the stupid thing can't even do math. You know, I'll use a local AI on my Linux computer and maybe summarize text that are a burden for me to digest, but if it's something important, I wouldn't feed it into it, let alone rely on it. And I just do this so I can familiarize myself with it, but I can definitely not use it. Also, I could see its value in a scientific, non-war-mongering setting in a controlled environment with a critical eye as a value. It is nothing but artificial, Let me say this one more time, "Artificial" intelligence. It's gonna be so fucking funny when this stupid bubble pops. All these companies go bankrupt. And these people jump off of fucking buildings for making our lives so goddamn miserable. Hey, I've got empathy, but you know, sometimes you get what you're asking for. People that lie and prey upon people in my book can go fuck themselves. I mean I see this time like kind of like the War of the Worlds and the radio program right where people actually thought there was an alien invasion and people fucking committed suicide because of it. It's just kind of like a mass hysteria thing. Like make people scared of it so they lean into it and they learn it and then they bullshit themselves as if it's like something interesting. I think the American consumer is going to be a little bit more skeptical in the future because there is some form of collective trauma from this era. Maybe sales people will actually excel because people want to talk to a human. It all depends on how far the fascists are allowed to go with this techno bullshit. I also start thinking about all the content moderators for like Facebook that are sitting in another country watching traumatic videos so we don't have to. And these people experience post-traumatic stress. So I'm like, maybe there's some dude in India flipping through a book real quick just giving you responses. Like you never fucking know man. It's just garbage. AI can eat my ass.
Gladly, not sadly. (Edit: I like Andy Weir books fwiw and will happily read what he puts out next, my comment was rebuking the notion that I am sad to read a book that AI slop hallucinated.)
