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[–] kryptonite@lemmy.world 168 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Most units of time are based on nature. A day is one rotation of the Earth. A month is the moon’s orbit. A year is the Earth’s path around the sun.

But a week? There’s no natural explanation for it.

Well, given that a moon cycle is about 28 days long, each quarter of that is 7 days. Before we had electric lights at night, most people were very aware of the moon phase.

[–] kryptonite@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now I've actually finished the article. That intro just ticked me off enough that I needed to say something before continuing. :-P

The study they cited shows that, surprise surprise, people need a break. That makes total sense. But the whole 55 hours a week thing? They seem to be advocating for people going to work for 55 hours a week, rather than the typical 40 hours for a full-time job. That's total baloney, though. There is so much work to do outside of my job. They mentioned volunteering and child rearing, but what about the basic work to live?

People have to eat, so they have to prepare food. They have to go to the grocery store. They have to do laundry. They have to clean their house. If they have a yard, there is yard work. There is time spent grooming oneself. If a person has kids, they may need to help their kids with homework. People have to shop for other necessities, like clothes. People spend time commuting to and from work. There is so much necessary stuff to do outside of a job that I would consider "work" because it's neither sleeping nor leisure.

So what is the point of this article? "God was right" that people need a break sometimes? Or "God was right" that the break should only be one day in 7? Are they seriously advocating for moving to a 55-hour work week?

The way they read into the scripture verse was really weird, too. They pulled a lot of meaning that's not textually there out of "Six days thou shalt work." The act of working has some inherent value now beyond what you're actually accomplishing? They're also conflating people not wanting to do any work with people not liking their jobs. Sure, a person could find meaning in being a janitor at a hospital, but not all jobs have some net social benefit like that. A person working at a call center to scam people doesn't have any deeper meaning to find and doesn't have to like their job.

The whole thing sounds like they're saying that everyone needs to shut up and be abused at work, working long hours, and if we're not happy about it, it's our own fault for not liking our jobs, and we need to suck it up and get with the program because Fox News said that God said so.

No thanks.

[–] kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

That's exactly what I was thinking reading through the article... Yeah, I'm generally at my best if I spend most of the day doing stuff, with the occasional rest day. People tend to want to work and accomplish things, but when their time is consumed by what feels like meaningless drudgery on top of the other daily necessities, that's a recipe for a mental health crisis. It feels like the author is deliberately omitting the part where your "55 hours" necessarily has to include all the stuff you work on outside of work, including hobbies.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have never seen that clip before. He was so dumbfounded by O'Reilly's example of a mysterious force that he resorted to sarcasm. Ngl I don't think I could have even responded to that

[–] frezik@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting to see that take. When it was new, Redditters criticized him for not giving a better response. You know, the response they came up with when they're sitting comfy in their house, and not actually there in the moment.

Which is to say that your take is correct when you have reasonable expectations of ability to improv a response.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

I have, unfortunately, been in situations where I needed to convince someone to change their stance only to realize they held that stance out of contrived ignorance. It's one thing to walk into a situation knowing that you are trying to educate, it is quite another to realize that person has already weaponized their education to push a narrative

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[–] Unrelated@feddit.nl 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn’t Fox News sort of the Onion, though?

[–] RudeOnTuesdays@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, except their viewers think it's real.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yea, I'm not sure why they are allowed to use News in their name but then claim to be entertainment. How is that not misleading?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They help the oligarchs who would be the lens to enforce that

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (3 children)

First off, this is a fucking ad. Article author is Mark Gerson who repeatedly references a book titled "God Was Right" written by... Mark Gerson... Set to release next month.

Second, just some of my "favorite" parts:

Contemporary research has shown that we can enjoy and find meaning in any job as long as we frame it correctly. This is called "job crafting."

Numerous studies have found that there is a productivity ceiling.

The rate of production slowed for the hours 50 to 55.

However, there was no increase in output from hours 56 to 70.

"That extra 14 hours was a waste of time."

And so, we now have the number of what we have termed the "productivity ceiling": It's 55 hours a week.

And here’s the amazing and maybe divine math.
A Sabbath observer can work 10 hours a day for five days a week. He can really only work half a day on the sixth, as he needs to prepare for Shabbat — leaving him with a 55-hour work week.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

And the "numerous studies" was 2, both using the same data, which was on manual labor from World War I.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He can take his religion and fuck himself in the ass with it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

"job-crafting"

AKA, lets do everything we can to make sure that the people reading this article never hear the term "work/life balance"

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

10 hours on the clock. 1-2 hours commuting both ways. 1/2 hour eating lunch away from home. 2 hours on basic needs. 8 sleeping. 2 with kids and pets.

This ensures that you will be incapable of happiness or enrichment and will spend every rest day frantically trying to do the stuff you couldn't get done and then vegetating.

Eventually you will burn out if you aren't 20.

This isn't an optimal schedule it's schedulinh a break down

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 week ago (19 children)

You should work more so that the 1% can buy more mansions and bigger yachts.

Duh.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hate this time line. All the advancements just to make life worse. I saw an article yesterday of a European country looking to raise the retirement age since people live longer. Even at work I have a program that monitors me to the second, and can tell if I'm clicking, typing, or "just moving the mouse." WFH can mean being on call 24/7. Any advice is always how to make do, or downsize. Which isn't bad in itself, but it's to "cope" with oligarchs wringing us dry for every second of time, and any money we happen to have. As things get "better", they just manage to make it worse. It's like the mere idea of a employee being treated like a human being and not their ID never is blasphemy. We have kids in factories and fast food jobs. This is ridiculous, and cruel. We should all be working less.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Have you tried giving up and just rotting into the ground?

[–] blargle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Rotting in the ground? Sounds like some woke carbon sequestration scheme. To the biodiesel rendering plant with you, peasant!

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The definition of "work" here is the question. I don't think spending 55 hours in front of a computer, under fluorescent lights and breathing recycled air, is what the ancients had in mind.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, the ancients never said anything about working a certain amount of time each week at all. Dude just made up some numbers and said God said it.

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[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I chuckled and thought, this is the new too on the nose onion. Only to notice oh its specifically not the onion.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

even the thumbnail is oniony

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago

A study from a hundred years ago proves that ~~God~~ money was right all along.

Thanks, Fox.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Wow this really is blatant and out in the open. You have to be really dumb to not see how obvious this is (very uneducated, indoctrinated, deeply religious).

This is one of the main purposes of religion. To get slaves to work. The slaves of the time were obviously uneducated, and easily manipulatable with superstitious thinking. Convince them when they die, they'll go to heaven and live in paradise. As long as you obey, keep working, and don't fight back.

Its so blatantly obvious, and its right there on FOX news, in the year of our lord 2025. Yowza, the Christians who fall for this are absolutely idiotic, it's hard not to feel pity, as its really not their fault.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago

Thank God religion isn't a tool to control the masses, can you imagine it was?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago

Fucking Fox News.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 25 points 1 week ago

That does sound like an onion article

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

This work doesn’t need to be paid. Volunteering and child-rearing certainly count as long as the activity is demanding, consistent and productive.

Very nearly said something meaningful, like advocating for UBI, but fucked it up.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

How 'bout you stop telling me how to live my life and fuck right off.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Where in the bible does it actually say that?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Right next to where it says to attack your trans neighbors to distract from the policy failures of your politicians.

[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 week ago

2 Opinions 3:12

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The closest argument that "the Bible argues for a work week" is the first two chapters of Genesis. God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

.... That's it. That's the whole reason our work week is the way it is. Jewish tradition really ran with that, and Christianity started as a Jewish sect. And of course for-profit business tried to jam as much work as possible into that framework. You can thank unions for the second day in your weekend.

Everything else here, the "10 hours a day" and whatever else, is all just embellishment, possibly citing other parts of the Bible to make it sound more plausible.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Another step towards the christofascist state...

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[–] PacMan@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

So I get to work from home and also raise my kids on corporate time like in the old farm times

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

God isn't real lol

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Me:

sees the title

"Yeah? Who's your source? Fox news?"

sees source

"I was joking, but that checks out."

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apparently God didn't know that capital investment increases productivity beyond the human's natural abilities, sometimes in magnitudes.

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and I should care about what the Bible says because ...?

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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

If God wanted his people to work hard he wouldn't have supported them buying slaves in the Bible

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