Oh wow it looks like Columbia bowing to Trump's every whim hasn't protected it and it's faculty from exploitation from the administration. Who would have thunk?
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When this postmodern "the truth does not exist" bullshit reaches the government, this is what happens. Totalitarianism follows, because people can't organize against power if they can't communicate or trust each other under a flood of lies. It is like inflation, but for facts instead of currency.
If fascism is when postmodernism, how come fascists hate postmodernism?
because they didn't control the lies.
Postmodernism is lies?
sometimes
Source?
reality.
Sounds to me like you're the one telling lies
reality disagrees
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Do they? e.g. putin loves it.
The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition
Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. Both Fascists and Nazis worshiped technology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditional spiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth (Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life, but it mainly concerned the rejection of the Spirit of 1789 (and of 1776, of course). The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.
No syncretistic faith can withstand analytical criticism. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason.
Guess who said this:
“Works of art which cannot be understood in themselves but need some pretentious instruction book to justify their existence will never again find their way to the German people.”
21st century fascism (ok, I'll call it neofascism to distinguish it from historical fascism) incorporates postmodern elements to distract and divide, it adjusted to new media, internet and social media. TV and radio was one-to-many, so fascists just needed one narrative. Now they want you to get lost in the pretentious instruction book and bickering whether elon's nazi salute was a nazi salute or not...
Anyway, what I'm saying is I think Habermas' approach to communication is very useful and Rorty's pretty useless to making sense of the world. But you can probably combine them both by using different methodologies to try to come to a conclusion about the truth, instead of just saying "the truth does not exist" and agree to disagree.
Can you explain how Fox News is postmodern using sources?
Which sources do you want, like examples? You know the examples. Something happens that goes against their schizo editorial line: either they find another scandal to distract from it, or they find the one expert that can twist the story to make it look good (e.g. climate deniers, antivaxxers)? They may produce an artificial controversy to pretend that there is disagreement among them. Multiple contradictory narratives aimed at different subaudiences that disagree with each other and plain manufactured stories...but I don't watch it that much.
And since I don't know who I'm talking to, there is no point in investing too much time into this. But if you read Habermas and Rorty, you could try to see what I mean...or not... :)
Okay, now provide a source that, say, twisting news stories to look good is a part of postmodernist philosophy.
I mean obviously there's fascism going on, but given this admin is it more likely that they intentionally fabricated a false study by this epidemiologist or that it's just an unchecked reference hallucinated by an AI chatbot told to write something in support of his position? Basically is this citation purely malevolence or stupidity in the service of greater malevolence?
Hanlon's razor: don't assume malice when stupidity is sufficient explanation.
Though, in this case, I think it's almost certainly both.
Honestly, with this administration we should be using the reverse of Hanlans razor: Don't assume incompetence when malice is sufficient explanation.
They are so very incompetent, though...
So incredibly, bafflingly, stupefyingly incompetent that even if you use the MAGA Razor they still look like pants-on-head-stupid, coconut-bonkers, clown-shoes dipshits.
I always describe MAGA as "virtuosically incompetent." It's breath-taking how stupid/ignorant they are, and yet they are so absolutely CONVINCED they are correct.
They're only incompetent if you think that governing is actually a priority of theirs
I've been saying that whenever someone brings up Hanlon's Razor. There needs to be a new one, called The MAGA Razor - always assume the reason is deliberate malice, even enthusiastic cruelty.
Depends on whether you take the mistake at face value or see it as yet another symptom of a disease taking root in the context of the whole administration's war against truth and accountability. But on its own it would muddy the waters to call it fascism.
He looks vile.
Much more personable with the worm.
Not fascism, just idiots until chatgpt
It's for sure both
Oh, so "fascism" is the word that will soon lose all meaning due to its overuse and attributing it to things that don't actually fit its definition.
One of the propaganda strategies used by troll farms is to pretend like harmful ideologies are subjective.
Since 2016 the people saying "too many people said the word Nazi so it's not worth evaluating if someone is a nazi" were literal troll farm employees from Russia and China.
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They are fascists who are creating fake science and stealing identities to do it in order to justify their fascist plans to do more fascism. Yeah, it's fucking fascism
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Anyone have any info on who the epidemiologist is or the fake paper?
That's government corruption. Still pretty bad.
Somebody uses the ChatGPT hallucination machine to write his speeches. I guarantee it.
Its not fascism, but it's really bad nonetheless and something that happens in fascism.
We've moved from politics being bounded by what the evidence can justify, through ignoring inconvenient evidence and consensuses, and hit "the party will decide what truth is." And ultimately it's a very bad position to be in.
Lysenko was as unable to convince the wheat to grow as he thought it should, as it was to convince him to plant it in a way that made it thrive.
So much for the 2A crowd...
The Dr even said even though she didn't write that article, the conclusions were roughly the same lmao
Found the paragraph for the lazy:
Although Keyes doesn’t know where some of the percentages mentioned in the report came from, she says, she did recently publish a paper in the journal JAMA Network Open that came to roughly the same conclusions as what was in the text.
TBH for many of us the moment of horror was when we realized Trump was actually winning. That's passed now, and everything he and his cronies have done since then has just been yep... yep... yep...
ITT: "people" pretending none of this happened,.or admitting it did happen and then trying to downplay the severity of government propaganda targeted at citizens.
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