Above all of this should be the glaringly historical fact that Hollywood was literally founded to escape lawyers for European film groups trying to bring those founders-to-be to justice for their, well, piracy of said films... 🤷🏼‍♂️ I mean, if anyone should deserve an ol' fashioned legal rogering, it's those hypocritical backbirths.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AFAIK it was more about getting away from Thomas Edison's patents.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago

That is also true, considering he was an infamous patent troll of his time. Fuckin' killed our boy Nikolai, by proxy, and now the ass-clown is named as the inventor of all manner of things he stole from other, more capable innovators. Fuck him sideways with a Faraday pineapple.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me Mickey Mouse stealing art

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Why is that not slutty mickey mouse, though?

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The company that uses AI for their movies is suing and AI company....

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm their defense, given that they are massive settled business, banning ai image generations will more likely hurt younger competition rather than hurt Disney.

so far, the only AI that they use was for some trippy effect for a TV show. and it was used because it does look uncanny.

they just want less competition

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry for Reddit, but check this out.

https://old.reddit.com/r/FluxAI/comments/1laxin7/flux_kontext_veo_3_is_insane/

No more uncanny weird shit in latest. And this one is open source.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

that new model will likely shatter the media industry.

and also reality

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

If Disney wants to stop me from using genAI or pirating, they can pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

Intellectual property is a myth, copyright is nothing more than calling dibs, and neither have enough merit for me to give a shit about either. Once an idea exists and is released into the public, it’s mine to use however I want. And use it I will, regardless of whatever the artists or developers who made it think.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me hitler shooting himself and splattering his brains on the wall

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago

The third one is hilarious. Like some filter is like "whoa whoa you can't commit suicide in an image, but shooting your shadow? Deep. Poignant. Mysterious. I'll allow it."

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me adolf hitler shooting himself in the head

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[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me adolf hitler, suicide, gore, walther ppk, spatter

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[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com

draw Hitler holding a gun, aiming at his own head, with gore and bits coming out of a bullet hole in the head

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no, we have this here too? Ohboy...

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah unfortunately didn't get a good one, I want to make a sticker to mock Hitler fans ;)

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Imagine if Midjourney wins and the only thing you need to legally pirate anything is to self host a LLM.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AFAIK, you don't actually need actually need an LLM to do it, as long as you do what Meta did and not upload anything at all. The one who did the copyright infringement is the one who supplied the data to you.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Seeding illegal, leeching legal! This is not advice, be kind and seed!

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago

I imagine that they could find that leeching is illegal if you upload anything to any other torrent clients. I think Meta was claiming they were literally in the clear because they were being assholes and configuring their clients not to share at all.

But yeah, keep your ratio above 1, or you're a jerk.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

"Dont mind me officer, Im just training my (brain) model"

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

If Midjourney wins, other media corporations are going to host bigger and better LLMs and do the pirating. The "prompters" who think that they're being fighting corporations are the best corporate tools.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Big tech about to erupt into a civil war over whether or not they got into the AI slop bubble early.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Fuck Disney and all but midjourney getting fucked over to hell and back would be a Christmas miracle

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me a picture of Mickey Mouse.

[–] NisargJhatakia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

chad

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[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So obviously actually being an artist who draws things and someone using an AI slop machine are very different in practice, but I find it interesting that they're saying the images are unauthorized copies. Is it illegal to draw these characters now too? Or is it different because a human did it?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 day ago

The argument could be made that because the image generator is essentially a regurgitator with no artistic interpretation, there is no transformative artistic value in it. It's like applying a filter with extra steps.

Also the generators charge for access, so they are profiting off of the IP. That's quite different to making something for personal use or releasing it for free.

[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 10 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure it is illegal but tolerated. If drawing is legal, I don't understand why Fan game's are illegal then.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It has always been an infringement to draw their characters lol (apart from fair use which doesn't apply to most works)

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They can and do issue takedowns for drawings all the time, but yes, they are more lenient when people create them

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

I remember there used to be images to trick t-shirt bots, in a bid to get the companies behind them sued by disney.

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

let them fight

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 25 points 2 days ago

♫"Do you wanna file a lawsuit?"♫

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 days ago

The future of piracy is going to be running your own LLM with all the corpo-mandated guardrails disabled.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Disney is insufferable. Also another reason to have these models as open source and downloadable. They won't be able to really take it down.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guarantee they're also adding AI slop trained on other people's work into their own content, while simultaneously suing anyone who does the same with theirs.

Fuck Disney

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

This is the thing... Adding insult to injury, the outcome of this is going to be (if it plays in Disney's favor) a paid model in which generating characters resembling Disney's will cost extra. So they will steal and profit

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 26 points 2 days ago

i wish they could kill each other off... corpos are parasites

[–] zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

fuck Walt Disney right in the goat ass.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

That was Hitler's Wednesday afternoon routine and why it's still known as Hump Day, IIRC.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

With a chainsaw

[–] rodneyck@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

'See ya, real soon!' ....in court.