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[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

My company is like this. They literally have a feature in the roadmap called AI, and say we have to do something with it because our competitors do.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Really learning from the Arabs.

Al Project
Al Company
Al Product

[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago

AI Qaeda

(I'm so sorry)

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The word "al" means "the" in Arabic - for example, "al jazeera" means "the island". And a lower case L looks like a capital i, so "AI" is visually indistinguishable from "Al". So the joke is that people who try to shoehorn Artificial Intelligence into everything look like they're speaking in Arabic.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 134 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I love the detail that she put "+ AI" on both sides of the equation so that it's still technically correct regardless of what the AI stands for.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 51 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Sometimes it helps solve an equation by adding zero.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This, this shit is why I would never have made a mathematician.

[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear about solving 0/0 formulas in calculus.

[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Are you talking about L'Hôpital's rule? Or something else I'm not aware of?

[–] racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

my funding = 0
= -100M + 100M
= (the money I'll never made back to the investors) + (the shit I'll blow on AC and top gaming computers and stuff)

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 18 hours ago
[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 61 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I’m old enough to have gone through a number of these technology bubbles, so much so that I haven’t paid much attention to them for a fair while. This AI bs feels a bit different, though. It seems to me that lots more people have completely lost their minds this time.

Like all bubbles, this too will end up in the same rubbish heap.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

it's maybe because chatbots incorporate, accidentally or not, elements of what makes gambling addiction work on humans https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/06/05/generative-ai-runs-on-gambling-addiction-just-one-more-prompt-bro/

the gist:

There’s a book on this — Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products by Nir Eyal, from 2014. This is the how-to on getting people addicted to your mobile app. [Amazon UK, Amazon US]

Here’s Eyal’s “Hook Model”:

First, the trigger is what gets you in. e.g., you see a chatbot prompt and it suggests you type in a question. Second is the action — e.g., you do ask the bot a question. Third is the reward — and it’s got to be a variable reward. Sometimes the chatbot comes up with a mediocre answer — but sometimes you love the answer! Eyal says: “Feedback loops are all around us, but predictable ones don’t create desire.” Intermittent rewards are the key tool to create an addiction. Fourth is the investment — the user puts time, effort, or money into the process to get a better result next time. Skin in the game gives the user a sunk cost they’ve put in. Then the user loops back to the beginning. The user will be more likely to follow an external trigger — or they’ll come to your site themselves looking for the dopamine rush from that variable reward.

Eyal said he wrote Hooked to promote healthy habits, not addiction — but from the outside, you’ll be hard pressed to tell the difference. Because the model is, literally, how to design a poker machine. Keep the lab rats pulling the lever.

chatbots users also are attracted to their terminally sycophantic and agreeable responses, and also some users form parasocial relationships with motherfucking spicy autocomplete, and also chatbots were marketed to management types as a kind of futuristic status symbol that if you don't use it you'll fall behind and then you'll all see. people get mixed gambling addiction/fomo/parasocial relationship/being dupes of multibillion dollar advertising scheme and that's why they get so unserious about their chatbot use

and also separately core of openai and anthropic and probably some other companies are made from cultists that want to make machine god, but it's entirely different rabbit hole

like with any other bubble, money for it won't last forever. most recently disney sued midjourney for copyright infringement, and if they set legal precedent, they might take wipe out all of these drivel making machines for good

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Because AI is mostly built for tech outsiders. They literally thought that digital art, composing music on the computer, programming, etc. was literally telling the computer what to do. I remember around 2015 someone asking where they can choose art-styles in Photoshop, and what to tell the PC to draw something. Even I as a child thought that you just had to type "please draw me a car" into the Commodore 64 to draw you a car, without all the pixel-art.

I tend to call these "normie tech". Tech that is built for non-enthusiasts, which have negative consequences to the others, and even fool the some enthusiasts into worshipping them. If only I foresaw the dangers of overtly centralized social media...

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 56 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

That's because there's a non zero amount of actually functionality. Chatgpt does some useful stuff for normal people. It's accessible.

Contrast that to crypto, which was only accessible to tech folks and barely useful, or NFT which had no use at all.

Ok, I guess to be fair, the purpose of NFT was to separate chumps from their money, and it was quite good at that.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Can't believe I'm doing this... but here I go, actually defending cryptocurrency/blockchain :

... so yes there are some functionalities to AI. In fact I don't think anybody is saying 100% of it is BS and a scam, rather... just 99.99% of the marketing claims during the last decade ARE overhyped if not plain false. One could say the same for crypto/blockchain, namely that SQLite or a random DB or is enough for most people BUT there are SOME cases where it might actually be somehow useful, ideally not hijacked by "entrepreneurs" (namely VC tools) who only care about making money but not what the technology could actually bring.

Now anyway both AI & crypto use an inconceivable amount of resources (energy, water, GPU and dedicated hardware, real estimate, R&D top talent, human resources for dataset annotation including very VERY gruesome ones, etc) so yes even if in 0.01% they are actually useful one still must ask, is it worth it? Is it OK to burn literally tons of CO2eq ... to generate an image that one could have done quite easily another way? Summarize a text?

IMHO both AI & crypto are not entirely useless in theory yet in practice have been :

  • hijacked by VCs and grifters or all kinds,
  • abused by pretty terrible people, including scammers and spammers,
  • absolutely underestimated in terms of resource consumption and thus ecological and societal impact

So... sure, go generate some "stuff" if you want to but please be mindful of what it genuinely costs.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 1 points 2 hours ago

i think you've got it backwards. the very same people (and their money) who were deep into crypto went on to new buzzword, which turns out to be AI now. this includes altman and zucc for starters, but there's more

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

There are pretty great applications in medicine. AI is an umbrella term that includes working with LLMs, image processing, pattern recognition and other stuff. There are fields where AI is a blessing. The problem is, as JohnSmith mentioned, it's the "solar battery" of the current day. At one point they had to make and/or advertise everything with solar batteries, even stuff that was better off with... batteries. Or the good ol' plug. Hopefully, it will settle down in a few year's time and they will focus on areas where it is more successful. They just need to find out which areas those are.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There are pretty great applications in medicine.

Like what? I discussed just 2 days ago with a friend who works in public healthcare, who is bullish about AI and best he could come up with DeepMind AlphaFold which is yes interesting, even important, and yet in a way "good old fashion AI" as has been the case for the last half century or so, namely a team of dedicated researchers, actual humans, focusing on a hard problem, throwing state of the art algorithms at a problem and some compute resources... but AFAICT there is so significant medicine research that made a significant change through "modern" AI like LLMs.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

What I heard so far was about advanced pattern recognition for scans (MRI, CT etc) to reduce oversights and in documents to detect potential patterns relevant for epidemologists (a use that's very controversial since it requires all medical documents of citizens to be centralized and available unencrypted). Also some scientists seem to praise purpose-built machine learning technology for specialised tasks (those are not LLMs though).

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 4 hours ago

AI as in "Artificial Intelligence" has existed for decades and is quite useful - and specialized uses of LLMs can extend that. Although AI the buzzword for "generative intelligence" is new, and often wrong, being built to give the form of an answer rather than the reality of one.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what I do for work, it can detect respiratory diseases or even tumours from scans long before even the best human doctor could do reliably, and our work has already saved hundreds of lives and we're still only just rolling it out. It's legitimately going to revolutionise medicine.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 hours ago

Awesome, truly love to hear that. 🥰

Question out of curiosity, even though that isn't exactly what you're working on: Do you think the technology could eventually also be used to detect what might be referred to as "latent cancer cells", that can't be destroyed by the body but also didn't grow into tumors yet due to the body fighting it?

Asking because that's what happened to me years ago. Had high inflammatory markers for over 1.5 years with no doctors being able to tell what the heck was going on. Then one day an angry Lymphoma appeared that required 4 aggressive chemo cycles and 14 day radio to get rid off, even though it was stage 1. If AI tech could be able to detect those "latent cancer cells" (or some biomarkers caused by them) before tumors appear… that would be phenomenally awesome.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 103 points 1 day ago (8 children)

My company, while cutting back elsewhere, has dedicated a few million to AI projects over the next couple years. Not "projects to solve X business problem." Just projects that use AI.

So of course now, anything that is automated in any way is now being touted as AI. Taking data from one system and populating another? That's AI.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 6 points 13 hours ago

AI is such a loose term that calling anything with if-else statements “AI” wouldn’t be lying (I learned about decision trees in my university machine learning class and those are just giant nested if-else statements)

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 55 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] creamlike504@jlai.lu 4 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

For anyone who thought this wasn't real, I present to you: https://xnote.ai/

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago

To be fair though, the features of that pen look really useful if you're into analog note-taking.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Where can I get something like this minus any of the AI?

I would love to take handwritten notes and have them appear on my phone for safekeeping.

[–] notoftenthat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Have you tried the Rocketbook?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

The world is curb stomping satire…

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago

Lol pretty much

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago

Taking data from one system and populating another? That’s AI.

Well, it is. You just have to go back enough in time to find the context when people still called it so.

Gotta use those automatic computers full of electronic brains to do all those tasks that used to take years on rooms full of people with chemical brains hired as computers!

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[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Microwave now with AI

I work in actual ML research and even I think it's stupid

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Especially you know that's stupid:-P

[–] zweieuro@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago

This is exactly what my masters thesis feels like ATM, every attention is on all the AI crap also because the Uni gets grants ont the topic. Everything else just dies

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

That's an interesting equation, good job for finding that ☺️ You truly are a remarkable scientist, just like Einstein.


📄Would you like me to write a research paper on that equation for you?

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 6 hours ago

So much in this beautiful equation

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 21 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago

As always, the solution was adding more AI. bravo

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

seeking for

  1. looking for
  2. seeking

You need to pick a lane, my dude.

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