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It is like police should be identifiable or something. But you got ICE in plain clothing trying to hide who they are because they don't want to deal with social consequences of being fascists and live freely in their communities.
Making it easy for any bad actor to impersonate police or ICE also.
“Aren’t you a little short for an ICE agent?”
Both democrats according to other reporting. The shooter was posing as a police officer and also shot the spouses of the politicians.
Yup. The linked article has been updated to that effect. Both Democrats, the assassin was impersonating a police officer, and both are in grave condition.
Democrats need to start hiring personal security. We're at that point.
At least one of them (Hortman) has died.
Democratic politicians in a legislature where Democrats had a one-seat majority. Fascists will do anything to seize power.
Jesus
This is what happens when you pardon terrorists. No doubt this was Trump's plan from the start. He knew that sooner or later, his cult would start shooting his enemies for him.
A source familiar with the matter tells ABC News that two of those shot are state Sen. John Hoffman of Champlin and state Rep. Melissa Hortman of Brooklyn Park
Why these two? I did a search for recent news articles about them and nothing notable jumped out at me, but hitting two Democratic state lawmakers feels too coincidental to just be dumb spree killing.
Democrats had a 1 seat majority.
HAD a one seat majority. Until the special elections take place, the Republicans now have a one seat majority.
Yes, that was my point
My bad
All good, far preferred to someone saying that we need to be respectful to cops or else we're responsible for their actions
Reminds me of that anecdote about Napoleon and a respectful young soldier offering to help him with something cause he's taller, and the answer.
"That can be straightened out."
They're decently active and notable in state news. I hear their names on local news more than the rep from our district. They're also decently close to each other, viable to hit both in a short period of time
Towards the end of the article it's also mentioned a list of politicians was found in the shooters car. The names of both politicians he shot were among the names on the list.
If they found his car they must know who he is and what he looks like. Shouldn't they be putting his picture on the news?
Not necessarily. Could be a stolen car. Balance of probabilities says you're right and they know exactly who they're looking for. Maybe they're bad actors, maybe they're trying not to have another Reddit "Mission Accomplished" moment, or maybe they're incompetent.
But they saw him, they have a car, and presumably they caught him on body cam so they can compare his image to the image on the driver's license the car is registered to. Maybe they're taking those steps, but I doubt it. But it's funny that they had descriptions of who they believe to be Luigi up pretty quickly but this remains a mystery man and they're urging people not to go to the No Kings protest. A cynical person would say it's a cop that did the shootings under orders to get rid of the one seat majority and quell the protest all in one blow.
Good thing I'm just a drunk and have never had thoughts like that.
ETA: they've released an identity. Cynics (definitely not harmless drunks like me) may have jumped the gun. But I'm sure that if they were here they would not apologize for what totally doesn't look like a two birds with one stone issue.
Looks like the police have released the shooters identity now. https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/57-year-old-suspect-sought-in-targeted-shootings-of-minnesota-state-lawmakers/
Hortman was the house speaker prior to this year's tie.
I imagine that it was a matter of opportunity. They were within 8 miles of each other. If and when they catch the suspect, it'll probably turn out that he lives in the area.
Can we say with 100% certainty that the Minnesota terrorist was impersonating a policeman? And not an actively serving officer?
'Tis happening, my lads.
An argument in favor of having a gun, at least if you're a democrat politician.
OK, seriously every era is unique and the same as all others at the same time.
I can't say I did natzi that coming
Jesus fuck they just reported hortman died. This is insane
My knee jerk reaction is a Republican dressed as law enforcement to try and stir Democrats into extreme anger or violence for protests today so that law enforcement has a powder keg that allows them the force they want to use.
My instinct is Republicans sending brownshirts to take care of any Democratic majorities
You don't need to attribute some grand chess plan
They hate, they kill, they are winning
The FBI released the suspect's photo.
getting started early today are we.
Keep in mind, the cops, the feds, all the shit birds in uniform; they weren't shit if you were on the streets in 2020.
The real threat was always chuds.
In 2025, the chuds are in uniform now.
They always were.
Don't say that! You might hurt their cop feelings! :(
Someone should really go to one of these protrests with a fly reel with donut on the end of it.
I mean, there is legitimately more constraints, however paper thin, on someone in uniform than someone not in uniform.
A chud has no such constraints. And we haven't heard much from them in a minute.
But this is what happens when you disregard the social contract which law represents. Put on a uniform and crime is now legal.
And we haven't heard much from them in a minute.
I think you walked right into the point and missed it.
Why haven't we heard about the Oathkeepers, the 3 Percenters, or the Proud Boys lately?
Because Trump put them in uniforms.
Yeah, cops don't do things like checks notes
Repeatedly publicly execute non-resisting people with no trial or process...
They've always been chuds, but white people have been allowed to pretend they aren't by playing along with the convenient fiction that all black people are dangerous criminals who deserve to die
Edit: Trusting cops LITERALLY GOT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEWS ARTICLE WE ARE COMMENTING ON SHOT
I swear the Internet breeds a certain kind of idiot allergic to reading comprehension.
As bad as cops are, there are material constraints placed on them. Thats the reality you are in. They aren't always enforced, they aren't good enough, but they exist.
There are no constraints on a 3%'er.
I've lined up against the PPB and I've lined up against Proud Boys.
I'm not fucking remotely concerned about the PPB in the same way that I am about white nationalists.
And if your 🪱 🧠 is to far gone to comprehend the difference, leave the decisions to people who have some experience.
Be one hell of a councidence if they werent connected. Bith being Democratic is no coincidence either.
America is looking a lot of Mexico right now.
Ft. Sumter vibes
And most of the folks here keep telling us we don't need guns for safety 🙄