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[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 hours ago

Can't seem to find the 'reply' button on any comments in any threads anymore, they musta changed something... so I gotta create a top level comment now to reply.

"So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don’t answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don’t answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door."

IDK about you but after you don't answer the door, I wouldn't be calling 911, I'd be playing possum with a fucking loaded gun waiting to go off if the front door opens or waiting for them to leave. The guy didn't say he had a warrant, and if the police have a warrant just one cop isn't going to be there, it'll be a Pride of LEOs.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is big news. Google it.

More info on him: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html

Mr. Boelter and his wife run a private security company in Minnesota, according to its website. The company, Praetorian Guard Security Services...

...the gunman had a list that included her name and the names of other lawmakers, all of whom were Democrats. The list included about 70 potential targets, a federal law enforcement official said, including doctors, community and business leaders, and locations for Planned Parenthood and other health care centers. Some of the targets were in neighboring states.

Mr. Boelter, the site said, had traveled previously to violent areas “in the Gaza Strip and West Bank,” the site said, and had “sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn’t the answer.”

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh the irony

[–] BMW_stick@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Do we need to mention that they were both democratic politicians? Many of us would love to see the list of the others he was going to kill. I'm sort of thinking they were all Democrats.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

it was, there was a list being mentioned on a subreddit, it includes tim walz, and others, plus abortion workers.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

…the gunman had a list that included her name and the names of other lawmakers, all of whom were Democrats. The list included about 70 potential targets, a federal law enforcement official said, including doctors, community and business leaders, and locations for Planned Parenthood and other health care centers. Some of the targets were in neighboring states.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

if they were a Republican it would be screamed everywhere about how liberals are using violence

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently, they're still screaming about how liberals are using violence. Nucking futz.

[–] Altrex@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, the tone I am seeing in conservative spaces about this has shifting to the gunman being a CIA operative to smeer conservatives.

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 80 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The details of this story are horrifying. The assassin went to the houses of two different lawmakers in the middle of the night (2am). Dressed as a cop.

In the dark, the people in each house had no reasonable way to know that the person ringing their doorbell at 2am was not a cop. Presumably he shot whoever came to the door then entered the house and shot the other spouse.

There's no way the people who were shot could have reasonably prevented being killed

So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don't answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don't answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door.

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 36 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't answer anyway, if they have a warrent they will come in regardless.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago

They come in without one all the time, and just get a bit of PTO for it, courtesy of we the people.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Convenient for the Trump administration that the (non-Fox) news is going to talk about this all day instead of the millions of people protesting him all across the country.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

With the news cycles being 24/7 these days, there's no reason they can't talk about both. Blame them for being shit.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

its on purpose, because the owners of all the MSMs are conservatives, just look who owns it

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[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 87 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

How convenient. House is a 67-67 D and R. State Senate 34 D 33 R. Not political at all this assassination......

[–] Moose@moose.best 17 points 13 hours ago

Are there actually no safeguards against this? It seems like a pretty big fucking flaw in a democratic system if you can kill the opposing elected officials in order to gain control of the state. Like their votes should temporarily go to someone else in the party or something, not just be wiped out completely.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

someone mentioned that in subreddit, yea they want to break that tie, but it would be whoever is control that appoints a special interim though.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Even the article explicitly says this is politically motivated, this isn’t being presented as random

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

it was kinda obvious since it was targeting democrats only, and abortion providers.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago

When a legislator dies, their votes should automatically count as a "no" vote to prevent shenanigans.

Wtf, this is a dystopian movie.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago

Time for real Americans to start dealing with the traitors in and out of our government.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 107 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

Sure sounds like MAGA is trying to start a hot civil war.

Going to be interesting when these people find out liberals are well armed and trained.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

TBH, I seriously considered going strapped to the protest today. But I think I'd rather be a martyr than be the guy who shot someone at the protest even if it was to defend myself and my fellow protestors. At least that's my thinking now while violence is unlikely in my town. If violence gets more prevalent and more expected, I might change my mind.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 5 points 8 hours ago

That was my exact thinking this morning as well. My state allows concealed carry without a permit, so I could legally go with my carry... but I thought better of it. I didn't expect any violence where I'm at, and it just seemed like it wasn't worth the risk, being the cause of more harm than good. It kinda went against the spirit of this protest imo, so I left it at home

Fuck it, I'm not that scared of dying that I gotta go strapped everywhere to feel safe. There's a time and place for carrying, and the protest wasn't one of them for me

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 63 points 19 hours ago (18 children)

It’s been funny when they’ve come up to me calling me the f word because I’m clearly queer and then I flash my piece at them and they get white in the face and back the fuck off me real quick

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 61 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, flashing your piece at them does indeed strike me as a tad gay ;-)

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 228 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I'd bet anything the police and media response to this is and will be orders of magnitude less than when that healthcare guy got clapped.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 169 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Insurance guy. The healthcare is what he was denying.

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 182 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

You know what’s fucked up is that I don’t even have to look. I can tell you right now that the victims in this crime are part of the Democratic party. You know how I know? Because the FBI director and the president are talking about prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law and how violence in America will never be acceptable.

But if it was the other way around and a Democrat went nuts and killed a Republican senator Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung or stretched or quartered or whatever it is they did to people in the middle ages.



[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 115 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

But if it was the other way around ... Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung...

Not just that, but he would be demonizing the whole Democrat party, saying how their dangerous rhetoric caused this and the party needs to be outlawed and its leaders arrested.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Democratic leaders should have bodyguard details that they have personally chosen outside of the Federal framework. The violence will keep escalating, both stochaostic and direct.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

In this political environment yes... but generally no public figure (including the president) should need a security detail

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 110 points 20 hours ago (16 children)
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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 127 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

This isn't just assassination, it's terrorism designed to scare opponents of Trump from speaking out. The media won't say that, of course, because it's likely the shooter is white.

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[–] WorldwideCommunity@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to call the soon to be obvious 'gunman shot by police/himself or hung himself with his hands tied behind his back'. Nothing more to see here.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Gunman identified when he showed his drivers license to a McDonald's cashier, a completely normal and everyday occurrence that happens all the time to poor people and no we aren't making this up, why do you ask?

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 39 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

It's on the news in Belgium.

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