Honestly who cares. The Democratic party is dead and useless. Stern words and no follow-up. If the Democratic party slightly resembles the 2024 party they're done.
UK is the same, except we don't have anyone to rally behind.
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I swear all these articles ever do is make conversation devolve into "MY OLD MAN IS BETTER THAN YOUR OLD MAN!". I mean look at the comments. It's distracting. At the end of the day, a loophole was found and Orange Chicken Little is going to use it just like the past three presidents did. The Democrats should be pointing the fingers at themselves for not amending the War Powers Act to return all combat engagement decisions back to Congress when they had several chances. The money is too good so they won't do that. Instead they will feed the public this crap and "take the high road".
I am not at all surprised that "Biden did not start wars" is their sharpest argument against the regime. Toothless cowards.
Democrats unable to come up with anything else than high school "politics" as usual
High school politics are still above republicans kindergarten level insults
Until Democrats start demanding punishment, I don't want to hear shit about their grandstanding! Fuck em, but fuck the other party way more!
I could see Chuck Schumer smugly saying this with his glasses sliding down his nose.
They aren't seizing on shit. They are saying 'nuh uh! Our old man was better because he fought people who couldn't fight back.'
Wow, what a sharp argument 🙄
Libs would rather lose than confront reality.
I have posted it a few times already over the past days: but we need to remember this:
This is the Democratiic parties election platform 2024 (see P82/P83):
Through aggressive diplomacy backed by U.S. military power, the Administration has worked alongside our allies and partners to deter and defend against Iran and its terrorist surrogates. President Biden has postured U.S. military forces in the region and authorized precision airstrikes on key Iranian-linked targets tied to attacks against U.S. troops to deter further aggression by Iran. President Biden has also continued to protect the American people from terrorism, authorizing military strikes that took out ISIS emirs and the leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri. In response to brazen attacks by Iranian-linked Houthi forces against international commercial shipping, U.S. naval vessels in the Red Sea, and Israel, President Biden ordered military strikes, alongside key allies, against Houthi targets and organized Operation Prosperity Guardian, a coalition of more than 20 nations committed to defending international shipping and deterring Houthi attacks.
When Iran launched more than 300 missiles and drones against Israel in April 2024, President Biden led an unprecedented defensive coalition – together with partners from Europe and across the Middle East – to defeat the attack, protect Israel, and stop the spread of a wider war. Through direct defensive action by the U.S. military and its partners, Iranian munitions did not cause significant damage, demonstrating both America’s ironclad commitment to the security of Israel and our unrivaled ability to leverage growing regional integration among U.S. partners to counter Iranian aggression.
All of this stands in sharp contrast to Trump's fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility.
They are literally calling Trump "weak" for not engaging militarily enough. This is the same language of Trump of "Peace through strength" and ultimately there is no indication, the Democrats would not have jumped at Netanyahus order to get into the war.
Literally the worst argument ever. Biden is a war criminal, he armed genocide. He is no better. Plus many others like Yemen.
While Biden 100% a supporter of genocide, Trump is all that AND more.
trump is so much worse though
The fuck he didn't. Look up Biden back in 2001 and 2002 on the senate floor screaming about how Iraq had nukes totally frfr pinky sware on me mum. That fucking clown couldn't gobble dick cheney's balls fast enough.
I really do not appreciate that mental image………
Over 20 years ago, immediately following 9/11. It was a different world back then. How much have you changed in 20+ years?
Yeah 20 years ago he could remember his middle name
TBH I wasn't a brainwashed idiot 20 years ago. Biden has always been zio fascist trash. We've been protesting this same garbage for my whole life.
20 years ago? These imperial attacks are at least as old as genociding native americans.
When it comes to foreign policy, remember, Trump is definitely in the Epstein files.
Wow, the fucking hypocrisy. Everyone is pointing out the genocide, which is fair enough, but more relevantly the Yemen bombing campaign is pretty much exactly what Trump is doing, only Biden had the sense not to call it a war.
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For fucks sake leave Biden alone.
Bringing him up only hurts the Dem party.
It doesn't matter if Biden is slightly better than trump. There's no gentleman's agreement that when Republicans run a shitty candidate the majority of Americans hate, that Dems need to do the same.
Progressive policy is overwhelming popular, and we got a good number of politicians who authentically support those popular positions.
That's who we need to be talking about. Not running PR for a geriatric that fucked us over and probably bears more personal responsibility for trump being president than anyone else in the country
If Biden's old ass would have let a fair primary happen, whoever won it would have easily beaten trump. But he put himself over the country, like countless neoliberals have before him.
Quick edit:
Thought this was the first time I'd disagree with the new chair, but bringing up Biden was all the author, Martin doesn't mention him once:
“In January — speaking to the entire nation at his Inauguration – Donald Trump proclaimed ‘We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end, and perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into.’
Today, against his own words, the president sent bombers into Iran.
Americans overwhelmingly do not want to go to war.
Americans do not want to risk the safety of our troops abroad.
Americans do not want a president who bypasses our constitution and pulls us towards war without Congressional approval.
Donald Trump needs to bring his case to Congress immediately.”
https://democrats.org/news/dnc-chair-ken-martin-statement-on-trumps-unilateral-act-of-war-with-iran/
Eventually I'll disagree with Martin on something, but he's killing it so far. I'm even optimistic enough to see this part:
For fucks sake leave Biden alone.
My man had four years to put a very obvious, comically easy to convict, serial murderer behind bars. And he dragged his feet because he thought Trump 2 would be easier to win against than Trump 1.
That's before you get into the genocides he backed or the pandemic responses he defunded or the insurance reforms he quashed or the fucking Clarence Thomas SCOTUS nomination. Dude should be crucified for that last one alone.
There are so many, many, many reasons to hate Joe Biden. We could be living in a golden new age of peace and prosperity in 2025 and we would still have ample reason to damn that piece of shit to hell for ten lifetimes.
Martin did phenomenal work in MN. I was genuinely surprised he got through the gauntlet.
We need seismic change within the Democratic party to show people they are worthy of their vote. You can't lie to and disenfranchise voters for decades, then make the argument "but we're not as bad as the other guy" and have it land.
Oh no, not a sharp argument
Sucks that they're lying and whitewashing but hey, at least they're pretending to be anti-war. If we're really lucky, we might even get a candidate in 2028 who says war is bad, and then pivots immediately if elected.
There hasn't been a legitimately anti-war presidential nominee from either party in my lifetime, and there never will be, unless something changes drastically.
Tbf Obama was pretty antiwar, until about 5 minutes after his inauguration.
Yep. And we've somehow gone backwards from there.
bluewashing
He enabled Israel by continuing to supply their genocide. The US was getting roped into Israel’s war either way. Both are senile assholes. Kamala never had a chance because Biden’s hubris
She might have had a chance, but at every turn she chose to say she would be no different from Biden. The fundamental reality is that people are disgusted by the status quo and don't show up for those that say nothing will change.
I still swallowed my pride and voted for her anyway, but I've never been so insulted as when I heard the "greatest economy ever" line over and over.
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don’t show up
They did show up. Kamala Harris won more votes than Barack Obama.
People talk like the Democrats didn't successfully twist arms and browbeat supporters into showing up for them in droves. 75,017,613 people voted for Kamala Harris, despite her vile stench.
Trump simply brought in more.
You were correct until the last sentence.
HitlerPig cheated, and we all know it. Cheating is their brand. They would cheat even if they KNEW they were going to win.
Dems went right to the "fair & square" line IMMEDIATELY after the election without even taking the slightest look at the evidence.
Now we are finding evidence in many places of very weird results, and the Dems are still trying to sell the concept of voters who voted a straight Democratic ticket, except HitlerPig at the top. I'm sure there are a few, but they are as rare as white squirrels. I've never met one, and I've never seen anyone claim to be one in the media, either. If there are so many of them that it SWUNG THE ELECTION, then let's talk to these people. Where are they?
HitlerPig cheated, and we all know it.
Nixon accused JFK of buying votes all through Illinois after the 1960 election. And we have ample statistical and anecdotal evidence to suggest the Dem machine in Chicago was absolutely stacking the deck in JFK's favor. But we also have ample statistical and anecdotal evidence to suggest the GOP machine was stacking the deck in the south of the state.
Subsequently, when Nixon recaptured the executive branch in '68 (following a series of very convenient political upheavals) he implemented the "Southern Strategy" to win over Dixiecrat leadership and cement a Republican majority across the Gulf Coast for the next 80 years. The same Democrats who had been winning elections on the back of that machine in the 60s/70s became Republicans winning with the same machine at their backs in the 80s/90s.
This isn't a problem unique to Trump. It's baked into the decentralized, county-lead, deliberately opaque and byzantine electoral counting and reporting system. Katherine Harris was fucking with Florida elections in 2000 the same way Brad Raffensperger fucked with Georgia elections in 2024.
And don't look too hard at California's ascendancy of Silicon Valley shills or the cop-lead effort to elevate Eric Adams to the NYC Mayorship or the Richie Torries seat in the Bronx or the current ratfvckery with Cuomo.
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I was so hopefully after she picked Walz. And then she fucking chained herself to Biden and all my hope faded.
I agree 100%. She would have been better in that she’s coherent, but just another neolib failing to address systemic problems.
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How about they do something about trump rather than just complaining and doing nothing
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