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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Buttigieg got Wyatt Cenac's show cancelled.

I will never vote for that dude.

[–] whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

I’m still upset with Buttigieg for his pre-Super-Tuesday drop out. He joined the establishment to rally against Sanders. In doing so, he became part of what’s wrong with the party.

While I don’t think poorly of him as a person per se, he is also just another politician.

In contrast, I see folks like Sanders and AOC as real agents of change.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What are the chances we'll have an actual election in 2028? 50/50 seems optimistic.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

We'll have an "election". The results will not be democratic.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Which problem are we talking about?

Trump? Yeah...

The "Democratic" Party hasn't had a real Primary for POTUS since 2008, maybe earlier.

2012? Obama was still in.

2016? "Superdelegates" were just party insiders explicitly allowed to put their thumb on the scale in the name of party loyalty. They used this to favor Hillary Clinton, a Goldwater-Girl who addressed the Senate in the mid 1990s and push for gun control by calling Black Children in Chicago "super-predators".

2020? That primary was operation unite-against-the-popular-candidate.

2024? No Primary. Joe Biden would go on to have cancer, Kamala had a joke of a campaign, and both of those candidates cosigned a deeply unpopular genocide so hard that it was bipartisan.

We saw astroturfed "no kings" protests come and go.

Now, with Mamdani looming large over the political scene, I see Democrats rushing to pretend their party name isn't just as ironic as another Conservative bill.

They will teach an entire Generation of their prospective political base that electoral political change is impossible.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago

0% considering how many Dems have been coordinating with Trump & Co to get his agenda passed. Even if Republicans 'lose' this time it's all just a big scripted fantasy like Wrestlemania. We'll still all lose either way as long as these two private organizations call all the shots.

It kinda depends on when Trump dies. I doubt any fascists succeeding him can hold onto the support of both oligarchs and grassroots. Even

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In my view, even voicing genuine doubt about the validity of elections undermines the very democratic institutions people claim to care about. It feeds into the same narrative that Trump and others have pushed, casting suspicion on the process and eroding public trust. Whether intentional or not, it ends up doing their work for them.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

Between this and the press egging him on, it's like everything is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It's like if reporters kept asking "are you gonna punch that baby?" It may have not been a consideration before, but it's definitely one now.

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago

🤣...Buttigieg...🤣. A Keynesian neo-liberal who as mayor, did nothing and the people there hate him. During the East Palestine Ohio train gas fiasco, it took him 7 days to even show up...and he did nothing for them. That was HIS job! Another neo-liberal failure. The democratic party needs a corporate/oligarch controlled candidate purge, STAT!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christ, it's 2025. I should fucking hope that none of this fucking matters for the 2028 primary.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

It really doesn't have any correlation to 2028. If anything it just shows the current mood of the electorate. Probably more informative if there were multiple surveys to compare movement against.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Holy crap, zero percent?? There was some iffy "not enough black support" conversations going on during 2020 that were warped by just how much black support Biden was getting, but you really should be getting more than zero.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I suspect that's a sampling bias due to sample size. He probably has low support though. It's kind of crazy, but if the republican party wasn't insanely racist, and actually social/fiscal conservative, they would probably take a majority of the black vote. The black community supports gay rights, because they're acutely aware of minority rights issues, not because they really accept bay people.

Taken as an overall group anyway, obviously there's a whole range of views among the community.

[–] IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not a fan of how high newsom is

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

It's largely a measure of name recognition.

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My top four:

  1. AOC
  2. Sanders (he's old af, otherwise he'd be first)
  3. Tie: Harris (love her but she needs to be a woman of the people, no more real estate conferences and more publicity)
  4. Tie: Buttigieg (best orator on the list, wish he was a bit more progressive)

Please no newsom, or even walz. I like Walz but he did specifically say he wasn't going to run for president during his vice presidential campaign.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 7 hours ago

Harris and Buttigieg 🤮

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AOC also said she would not run either. The neo-liberals would make sure she especially would fail, just as they did with Bernie, twice.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

Biden also said he wouldn't run again if he won in 2020 and we all saw how that played out.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope Walz throws his hat into the ring.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Walz is a staunch zionist. Electing him would mean more years of the US sponsoring middle east violence that could literaly end humanity on the planet.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

Buttigieg, those people are obsessed. I remember the announcement that Buttigieg had won the 2020 Iowa Caucuses, lol.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

So another Biden.......

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

List doesn't include Zohran, meaningless.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly ineligible. He's a naturalized citizen.

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I heard the constitution means nothing nowadays

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd wait for him to be new York mayor for a bit before going for the presidency, however, you have to be American born to be eligible for presidency.

wish it wasn't so, but them the current rules.

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The rules also say something about birthright citizenship and asking congress for approval before throwing bombs on other countries.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

rules and laws are for the poor you silly