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[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Real ones get their micro plastics by chewing on used car tires.

[–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

I was handed a water bottle the.other day at a volunteer event and was lamenting the fact that in the US, we don't have attached caps. I almost immediately lost mine. It's possible to make them attached, AND not suck.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

PET bottle recycling is the only part of plastics recycling that actually works. Making sure the bottle caps are also correctly returned to recycling plants is a good goal. Also it makes picking up litter a little easier, because now you only need to pick up one thing instead of two.

Btw, this is why clothing/bags/... made out of recycled plastic bottles is actually a terrible idea, because once the PET is out of the bottle recycling stream it is permanently removed from this recycling loop and new PET needs to be produced to compensate.

[–] Nariom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

while i can appreciate the goal and potential result, those attached caps are terribly impractical, i wish they'd find a better solution

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know that these caps can be overextended? They have a second open position, where they are opened at ~180°. At that position they don't flop back closed and are quite well out of the way.

[–] Nariom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

nah they dont go far enough for my big nose and that makes it awkward and messy, may depend on the bottle and the nose i guess

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We just need thousands more little steps. It all adds up. Like the whole plastic straws debacle. While mocked, it’s one more little step.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, the big problem is that each of these steps takes monumental effort while yielding only very little result.

At the current pace, new areas of plastic waste generation are added much faster than old areas are removed.

While we were busy banning plastic straws and plastic bags and stuck the cap onto the bottle, the plastic garbage production industry added thousands new types of unrecyclable products.

I don’t disagree.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 256 points 2 days ago (19 children)

That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I was interested in that whole ecoli eating plastic and producing 95% acetaminophen from it by mass. Maybe we can stop a lot of the plastic from water/soda bottles and just medicate ourselves till our livers shit themselves out our assholes.

Also it means recycle schemes get a % boost because a lot more bottles come back for recycling with their caps. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap is 10-20% of the total plastic in a bottle so caps were missing then that's wasted opportunity.

I remember as a kid when ring pulls on case used to detach and that's the same thing too. I remember my dad metal detecting on the beach and he'd recover dozens of ringpulls because people just tossed them.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Littered bottle caps was a problem? Anyway, I hope they do cigarette filters next.

[–] bstix 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The caps was a problem yes. Not just littering, but also in sorting for recycling, where they'd often end up in the wrong place.

It obviously depends on where and how it's done, but the thing I've heard is that due to (the lack of) weight and size the bottle caps would end up in the paper badges, which would ruin the paper from being recycled. It's better if it follows the bottle. PET bottles (including caps) are shredded, washed and used for new bottles.

Same thing happened to the pull tabs on aluminium cans. Those used to be separate too.

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[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

you should only be allowed to buy cigarettes if you can account for all your ciggy butts or pick-up an equal amount.

[–] Nangijala 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Australia they have something called "report a tosser" people who are proven to have littered anything from cigarette buds to plastic bottles and more will be fined to hell and back.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Imagine the power of combining this tosser initiative with the revenue sharing aspect of New York's vehicle idling program. Save the planet and get paid all at the same time.

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[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Simon Clark had a pretty good nuanced video on recycling and goes over plastics recycling in the latter parts of the video https://youtu.be/iOtrvBdRx8I

TL;DW Consider the environmental impact of systems over materials, most plastic doesn’t get recycled but some types of plastic are highly recyclable, existing plastic is undervalued, reduce > reuse > recycle.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't know what % of plastic the cap comprises in a plastic bottle but I bet its double digits. So annoying as it is to use, attaching the cap to the bottle does make sense for recycling. It also lessens litter.

But it needs to be paired up with a deposit refund scheme. Lots of countries do this already and encourages circular economies - the soft drinks companies purchasing recycle material to reuse. I bet those schemes measured a significant jump in recovered plastic when virtually all the caps come back with the bottles.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Annoying? Am I the only one who thinks it's more convenient? The cap cannot fall, you can open it one handed, you cannot lose the cap...

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

from what i can tell it's like half a percent of a percent of people who give a singular thought to it beyond "oh they changed it"

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 144 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I think the cap thing is more about littering because in those countries people litter only the cap for some reason?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 217 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When cleaning up beaches and the like, those caps are the litter they found the most.

People lost them or didn't bother to pick them up because they are so small. Unlike with the bottles themselves.

Since they switched to the new caps, the amount of caps found has decreased significantly.

So yes, they work. It is all based on data.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Ofc it is, but stupid fucks have to complain about mundane shit

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[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thanks for explaining, I was worried this was a band aid mesure which didn't solve to root cause. /s

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was interested in that whole ecoli eating plastic and producing 95% acetaminophen from it by mass. Maybe we can stop a lot of the plastic from water/soda bottles and just medicate ourselves till our livers shit themselves out our assholes.

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 48 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 days ago

Attached cap prevents it from becoming a macroplastic

[–] Zatore@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like the convenience of not losing the cap

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 36 points 2 days ago

Even worse, "it's mildly annoying, so I don't wanna!" Ofc would be better if people didn't throw em away at all, But alas

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