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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We keep having to replace the logic board on our dryer.

Motherfucker, your job is to get hot and spin. I want the old "egg-timer that flips a switch" tech to come back.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A good dryer senses the moisture and adjusts the heat so it dosnt shrink your clothes and you dont have to take them out damp and hang them anyway, throws in a few reverse spins so clothes dry more evenly, and some other stuff Im sure.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But generally are built like shit.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

It really depends, Ive stayed at hostels where the machines run 3+x a day and sometimes some machines will be 5+ years old. There doesnt seem to be any rhyme or reason as far as brand or usage pattern, though I've never seen an old combination unit.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bet someone chimes in with "but the new one is better because it uses less energy". I'm too lazy to figure the math on that but I can't imagine that the 20% more energy usage of my old machine is greater than the energy cost of manufacturing, shipping, extra repairs (parts, transportation) that the new "better" machines need on 1yr to 18month cycle of fixing or outright replacing.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not like the reasons new ones are more efficient is inherent to the reasons they're more fragile though. You know how you can tell? Because machines at laundromats are just as efficient and don't break all the time!

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I owned a laundromat. They are not efficient and cost a mint. The focus is on "wash fast, next customer please."

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My wife hates our "ugly" fridge that came with our house. It's about 25 years old works perfectly, even the ice maker. She is a frugal person that can't justify replacing it until it breaks. Yet it keeps on ticking. Everyone I know who has a fridge made in the last 10 years has a broken ice maker. I'm happy with the "ugly" perfectly functional fridge.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

If the only issue is the looks, could you not do something like a vinyl wrap or just plaster it with art?

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

The fridge is the appliance that consumes most power. A modern fridge, with a high energy saving rating will pay itself in a couple of years.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Fuck in door ice makers. You're adding complexity and making the whole thing less reliable and less efficient.

[–] FourThirteen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I keep seeing people say this, but they only have a 3 year warranty. Samsung, siemens, and random chinese companies I've never seen in the US offer 20 year, on much cheaper machines.

[–] FourThirteen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The thing about speed queen is that they go out of their way to be repairable though.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Samsung is willing to bet they can make a profit while covering 20 years of repairs, whereas Speedqueen is only willing to bet 3. That says to me the speedqueen is less repairable or Samsung and others expect to weasel out of their warranty.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, they make them so cheap they can give you 3 machines over the life of the warranty.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

But the actual price is cheaper too, do you suppose the 650USD samsung costs 200 USD to build and ship? A 250 dollar machine with a 6 year warranty would be impressive, and triple their profit margin.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What are people doing with their laundry equipment and other appliances? I'm not saying you'll get 30 years out of new appliances, but I still routinely get 10ish.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Luck of the draw.

We're suffering from design issues. People want refrigerators with the freezer on the bottom and washers that open in the front.

Then companies want to make you connect to the internet so they can put an app on your cell phone and sell your data to every bidder.

Then, adding insult to injury unless you buy the top of the line they skimp. (And even then sometimes, looking at you Samsung refrigerators) That mid-range dishwasher no longer has a mascerator in the sump and the walls and the swing arms are all made out of plastic with no bearings. They're not putting good seals and isolation around the logic boards.

You can buy good long-lasting stuff if you're careful. But man are you going to pay.

When people look at a $3000 - $4,000 laundry set vs a $1200 set They start to ponder if it washes clothes does it matter.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My washer I bought in 2015 for a condo worked all the way to when we sold in 2024. Likely still going because it never had an issue.

New house washer purchased last year, still no issues.

My inlaws have gone through several in the last 10 years.

Biggest difference is user error. My inlaws wash a big load of towels every single day and load the washer to the lid. I load 3/4 full and don't go through towels like crazy.

People just don't know how to use appliances.

[–] MBech 6 points 1 day ago

99/100 times user error is the answer to most stuff. Users are idiots who will not accept responsibility as long as they can say "well it's the appliance that is built bad".

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's because Whirlpool bought up all of the competition. Whirlpool, Kenmore, Maytag, Amana, JenAir, Roper, Kitchenaid etc are all the same company and the competition they didn't buy has less incentive to produce much better units because now they have to compete with cheaper built machines.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

They didn't buy up Bosch (to my knowledge) but maybe they're not in the us?

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 69 points 3 days ago (12 children)

You know the funny thing?

You can still buy appliances that last and have good service.

But you don't earn enough to afford them, like your parents did.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 133 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You always have to leave the door open...

[–] HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I picked this up from my parents.

When I moved out, I lived with a flatmate for a few years and I left the washing machine door open after using it and my flatmate closed it.

I explained to her why I left it open and she just stared back at me. Not once had she ever thought of this and said it made so much sense. She is about 20 years my senior.

Certain habits seem to be so obvious, but unless handed down, someone may never even think of it.

Reminds me of that guy that never thought to let the shower water get warm before stepping in.

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[–] phx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it really that it worked for 30 years or just that the couple times it failed that actually got somebody to repair it?

I had my washer/dryer for 8+ years now. Actually got the extended warranty for sure reason and it covered having a repair when it started leaking, but given the cost of repairs hasn't just elect to buy a new unit.

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

My washer/dryer unit stopped working properly after less than 5 years. Out of warranty. I was damned if I was going to toss it or pay the equivalent to fix. So, I researched, found the problem, purchased the part and fixed it myself. I'm a 58 yo woman who is so sick and tired of the games corporations play to part us with our money.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (14 children)

This is some bullshit. You can go to Home Depot or Lowe's right now and get yourself a pretty decent washing machine for $600 that will last you a decade.

The only people who end up in the situation like OP are the people who buy overly cheap products or overly gimmicky products, and then wonder why they don't work as well as the standard products. If you buy a $150 washing machine from AliExpress or buy a washing machine that requires wifi, then don't be surprised if they stopped working not too long after you bought them.

[–] 1D10@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is my mother in law to a tee, she buys second hand washing machines on craigslist for $100 - 200 they last about a year and she buys a new one. Always complaining about "planned obsolescence". I keep telling her "no one is selling a good used washing machine, they had problems with it and got a new one" Meanwhile she criticizes me for spending $700 on a washing machine we have had for 10 years now.

She has a saying "poor people have poor ways" which she thinks means that when your poor you work with what you have, I have told her it is an insult that means poor people are poor because of their actions and decisions.

[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] 1D10@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My child is named after Vimes

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[–] phx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not AliExpress, but fucking Samsung. They may appliances with all the cool smart features and they're everywhere, but holy shit are they terrible for reliability (both per my own experience and according to repair people I've talked with).

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I went back to my birth country and my grandmas toilet is ancient, like 100 years old and the insides are original, never replaced and they work. Meanwhile im in Canada and I’ve had to replace the mechanisms inside the water tank like twice in 3 years

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