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[–] dodgeflailimpose@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

i can't argue with toddlers

[–] owl@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago

There is no safe amount? What? Not even zero?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 155 points 1 week ago (8 children)

as little as one hot dog a day

That still seems like a lot to me.

A hot dog a day keeps the doctors employed.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I suggest you don't visit West Virginia....

Each year, West Virginians consume 481 hot dogs per capita, according to 24/7 Wall St. That means the average West Virginian eats more than one hot dog a day. Illinois locals love their Chicago dog, and they didn't even come close to West Virginia's annual hot dog consumption, hitting 317 per capita.

https://www.tastingtable.com/1887834/west-virginia-most-hot-dogs/

Coincidentally West Virginia has an obesity rate of 41%.

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[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While I'm sure they meant a hotdog sized amount per day... yeah, thats terrible wording. When I eat hot dogs I might eat 2 or 3 at a cook out or something... then not eat hotdogs for like 3 months. They could have evoked the "amount" better. And even then... who eats that much ultra processed meat?

[–] auraithx@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think that’s about the average.

Deli meats, pizza toppings, bacon, etc.

[–] TheWeirdestCunt@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

how is bacon ultra processed meat? bacon is just part of a pig in the same way that loin or rump are. Unless US bacon is just reconstituted corn syrup like most of their stuff seems to be.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

the curing process introduces carcinogenic nitrates, which is a similar risk factor, if I understand correctly

[–] auraithx@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

All bacon worldwide is processed meat because it’s treated to preserve shelf life.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 128 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It’s also important to note that the studies included in the analysis were observational, meaning that the data can only show an association between eating habits and disease –– not prove that what people ate caused the disease

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think that if you know a person who eats a hot dog every day, you will have many other reasons to suspect that they're unhealthy.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The hot dog was an example, lunch meat is also processed and plenty of people eat a sandwich every day.

[–] Liljekonvalj@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Isn't pasta also ultra processed? Bread?... Butter? CHEESE? Isn't everything ultra processed? Even beans if they have been dried and canned?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Bread and pasta can be for sure. There are variations in how flour is made for example. Butter and cheese are unhealthy types of fats, they are unhealthy for other reasons. Moderation is important, and a varied diet.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Eh they're mostly water and sawdust.

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 week ago

Doing the Lord's work here. Thank you.

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 92 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Everyone who has ever eaten a hot dog will die

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

studies show that 100% of people who drink water will also die.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't have a problem. I can stop drinking water whenever I want to.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"As little as one hot dog a day", doesn't really strike me as a great example of a "small" amount of processed meat. I'd generally say I ate a lot of something if I had it literally on a daily basis.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Totally agree on hotdogs, but if someone ate a slice of standard toast for breakfast every day I wouldn't say they ate a lot of toast.
Point being, I don't think the frequency can be considered independent of the thing.

They maybe could have phrased it better as "consumption of as little as 2 ounces of processed meat, about one hotdog, a day...".
A hotdog is a relatable unit of measure for an amount of food, but a hotdog a day isn't normal. A hotdog one day, a deli sandwich the next, and so one though isn't preposterous.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

7% increase of an already small chance in exchange for 1 hotdog/day doesn't sound that bad to me.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It never seems that bad unless you're in that small percent. Cancer's a damned awful way to die.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's begin by reading the article, and noting this key sentence: "“Habitual consumption of even small amounts of processed meat, sugary drinks, and trans fatty acids is linked to increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes, ischemic heart disease and colorectal cancer,” said lead author of the study, Dr. Demewoz Haile, a research scientist at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle. "

Health effects associated with consumption of processed meat, sugar-sweetened beverages and trans fatty acids: a Burden of Proof study https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-025-03775-8#author-information

Abstract

Previous research suggests detrimental health effects associated with consuming processed foods, including processed meats, sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) and trans fatty acids (TFAs). However, systematic characterization of the dose–response relationships between these foods and health outcomes is limited. Here, using Burden of Proof meta-regression methods, we evaluated the associations between processed meat, SSBs and TFAs and three chronic diseases: type 2 diabetes, ischemic heart disease (IHD) and colorectal cancer. We conservatively estimated that—relative to zero consumption—consuming processed meat (at 0.6–57 g d−1) was associated with at least an 11% average increase in type 2 diabetes risk and a 7% (at 0.78–55 g d−1) increase in colorectal cancer risk. SSB intake (at 1.5–390 g d−1) was associated with at least an 8% average increase in type 2 diabetes risk and a 2% (at 0–365 g d−1) increase in IHD risk. TFA consumption (at 0.25–2.56% of daily energy intake) was associated with at least a 3% average increase in IHD risk. These associations each received two-star ratings reflecting weak relationships or inconsistent input evidence, highlighting both the need for further research and—given the high burden of these chronic diseases—the merit of continuing to recommend limiting consumption of these foods.

Then I hit a paywall. Anyone got a ladder?

[–] joshchandra@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago

One of us is gonna have to email one of the authors to ask for a copy. I've read that they want the public to read their work and that the paywall is just like a default setting.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dang, you mean to tell me that animal refuse blended into mush and saturated with salt is bad for us?!

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh, "refuse" makes sausage sound worse than it is. In the modern world anyplace with a food inspection system will typically see sausage made from cuts of meat that are perfectly edible but don't meet the grading standards likely to sell on the shelf , or the excess pieces of muscle left over after breaking primal cuts down into smaller pieces. No one wants to buy USDA certified Meh grade steak, or a palm sized wedge of uneven thickness. So they get sent off to make hamburger, sausage, and various canned or commercial meat products that don't need to be pretty.

Processed meat also includes much more benign seeming foods, like sandwich meat, ground meats, and bacon. We've known for a while that eating meat, and more so red meat, is a risk for colon problems. Red meats are more likely to be processed and therefore cheap and salty.

The new thing the study adds is that there isn't a lower bound. For a lot of things there's a quantity that isn't associated with any issues, and it's only when you go above that limit that the risk goes up.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Truth.

Yesterday I opened a huge bung of ground beef that I got from Costco.

Fried up 1/3 of it up and when I tasted it... Damn that's f'kking bottom round roast beef 😋

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One of the other interesting things in the US is that different states can have different laws for meat standards, as long as they meet or exceed USDA minimums. They can't, however, advertising that fact because it's a violation of interstate trade.
So in the US, a legal hotdog ranges from a blend of the trimmings above and what can be removed from the bone with a power washer, up to "hot dogs must be made only of the product of primal cuts with no trimmings or waste meat".

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Refuse? Why do you think processed meat is animal refuse?

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Considering humans have been eating processed meats like these for centuries, I think I’ll take my chances.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

And our rates of intestinal cancer have been rising steadily to the point where now it's a common killer, so we've become afraid of it in our quest to live long, pain-free lives.

Things change as we learn. Why we don't use lead in our pipes anymore. Safe, biocompatible plastic only.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There is no where safe from fascists and ICE right now so I'm gonna eat all the processed meat I want dammit. If it gets much worse I'm gonna take up smoking and drinking again too, since I'll definitely fuck up and get exiled or worse for opposing all of this shit. On a related note, are there any good sources for quality FUCK ICE magnets and bumper stickers?

[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No no, you've got it backwards. Give THEM the processed meat

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