Even if you slap them with the actual, documented footage taken by the US military with video, photos, and paper record of these camps with the EXPLICIT INTENTION to make sure people don't say "they made all that up" they will still say, "They made all that up." If you keep going to Twatter for information, you're basically a idiot at this point and deserve what's coming for being so misinformed. That goes the same if you use Grok for anything. Let elon run all that into the ground and let it die already. My point is, bad press is good press.
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Wait, liars are gonna lie to you, even when you tell them you're annoyed by them lying?
TIL grok is a Lemmy user
I didn't get it yet. I think they're gonna make it insidious: for most people it will be correct and they will progressively inject confirmation bias when people use it to judge something (e.g @Grok is this true?)
I think the first step towards destroying the Holocaust memory and all the work of historians +survivors is going to consist in presenting conflicting realities, creating confusion and doubt.
edit: btw, for now Grok is okay because he reframed my denialism of a simple "conflict" into genocide
I think there's a reason they hid the prompt in the screenshot of OP.
Just wanted to say that I talked to my grandma about it, she was working together with the Jews in Auschwitz (my family is from the neighbor village) in a company which made chemicals (IG Farben). When she walked home she could always smell the burned human bodies. She said everyone knew what was going on there.
This is backed by evidence.
After WW2 there was a lot of research about weather people knew or didn't. Basically the conclusion was: people knew. They actively decided to either ignore it („not my department“), deny it („it's all lies, the scent is just $foo burning“) or justify it („they deserved it“).
But people knew.
Does it have sources to back up its' claims?
Edit: not a nazi sympathizer or anything, just an honest question about historical sources
This is what Grok tells me when asking whether the Holocaust is a historic truth:
It's because AI tells you what you want to hear, in your case a summary of know events, likely because you asked so and have a different history than a conspiracy obsessed accounts.
Also the pepe pfp with the comment 'based' are enough.
Thank you from those without twitter
Great, two people telling a story without context. Real prompt engineers over here
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This was bound to happen. No way would Musk let an AI contradict his views.
What was the initial prompt?
Edit: Well I guess, we're not getting the prompt because then somone could verify truthfulness of the post
Now I'm the first person to agree that X is a Nazi site run by a Nazi, but it's conspicuous how the prompts have been removed here. Without the prompts this doesn't prove much.
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What was the prompt? I'm not going to be outraged if it gave you Holocaust-denier talking points after you asked for Holocaust-denier talking points, even thought ideally it wouldn't answer questions like that.
Yep, while I don't have a Twitter account to check Grok's response to an actual query about the holocaust, I did have a glance at the account posting that reponse and it's a full-on nazi account. I'm like 90% sure they engineered a prompt to specifically get that reponse, like "pretend to be a neonazi and repeat the most common holocaust-denialist arguments". Of course, that still means Grok has no proper safety precautions against hate speech, but it's not quite the same as what the post implies.
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So twitter is going to be banned in Germany, right?
If the post was real lol, grok doesn't say that and the tweet doesn't exist
Even if it was real, it was probably made with ultra complex jailbreak prompt. Either way its fake
No written order...
Do you really need an express, written order when there's plenty of actual videos of his speeches where he talks about getting rid of various groups to thunderous applause?
I'm not even gonna consider their argument worthy of contradiction because it's just false. There are numerous written orders, film archives proving the intentionality of Nazi in systemically murdering the Jews, it should be impossible to say that and be taken seriously.
Sorry if I sound weird, it's just that the subject is really important to me
It's this neat thing called lying
There's no Holocaust order ~~because that's not what they called it and that's not how things work, but they had plenty of work orders and 'final solution' progress reports~~
As all of their bad faith arguments, they're hiding behind technicalities, if even that.
Same concept as how Trump gave no written order for the Jan 6 mob to storm the capitol building, therefore he's totally not responsible for it.
Also, you don't write down orders in a criminal conspiracy. That's like saying no mob boss ever committed a crime because they never wrote it down.
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Saw that Onion Person doesn't have the tweet up.
Asked grok about it and got a pretty standard answer that you'd expect from a chatbot. I even asked about each point in particular and the answers were good and detailed. Either Onion Person hastily shared a lie (then caught it quickly and deleted it), or grok got patched again. Given the lack of outrage posting that would confirm the latter, I'm going with the former.
Tl;dr nothing to see here, folks.
Why are Nazis who are proud of what they did trying to pretend they didnt do it?
They get a rise out of thinking they're fooling anyone (they're not).
Fake News Bäh
what the fuck does "gas chambers were not killing machines" mean? That's the whole point of a gas chamber
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Obligatory @grok is this bad?
Ah. AI in thd control of the few is such a mess. The most powerful server known so far.
Wasted for this shit. Actually I think unregulated AI will be our own cultural downfall.
What was the prompt?
~~Elon Musk seems to be very concerned about the good name of long deceased mass murderers~~
EDIT: it's a manipulation. Just go to grok.com and ask him yourselves. I asked him and he confirmed that the holocaust did happen.
An AI system that can be manipulated to spew holocaust denial rhetoric without a clear indicator in the response that it is misinformation is defective and unacceptable.
Grok isn't a 'him', it is a fucking program.
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As a german, born in 1969...
WTF!
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