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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

I get why they'd use something like this to save money and time but, is suspect that correct use would include a human check before charging people.

We need to start pushing for laws on this kind of thing. Automated checks are fine if you, as the company, trust they won't have too many false negatives. If you aren't checking for false positives, though, you should be heavily fined for each false report. $25,000 per false report sounds like a good place to start. Hopefully that would be large enough to not just be the cost of doing business.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, so Hertz has gotten wise to... every online platform that exists: Outsourcing all responsibility for their user-hostile bullshit to some vague "system" that cannot be held accountable.

I'm so sorry but the advertised cost has doubled because... Computer says so! No, sir, there's nothing I can do, sir, you see it's the system.

And you can't go anywhere else, because everyone else is doing it (or soon will be) too!

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

just wait till they start denying health insurance with it

I'm sorry ma'am I know you're upset, but the AI said it's not covered. The AI is numbers, and numbers don't lie.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Do they already not do that? They just call it "the computer".

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

I mean, it'll mostly be accelerating a trend that was already there. Also, the initial scramble to use the legal grey area to cover as much shady shit as possible in a: Well shucks, how were we supposed to know the neural net would make illegal denials? After all, the guys who trained it don't even know exactly why it does what it does kinda way

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 hours ago

Fair game. Give me a grease pen and let me mark everything I see. By the time I'm done, they'll owe me money.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder what a credit card dispute would result in here. Underutilized feature when businesses pull shady shit. Think I've had 6 or so disputes over the years, never failed.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Too many people these days don't use or have access to credit cards for services like this. Many people I know only use bank debit cards, or worse, use the debit preloaded cash cards issued by their employers' payroll service provider.

Credit cards motivate banks to help you, because if you won't pay, and the business doesn't pay, the bank has to take the hit.

Debit cards will work as well if your bank values it's reputation - but not all banks do.

And I would not trust a preloaded card provider to assist. You are neither their business partner nor their customer and that puts your interests at the bottom of a very long list. You have to hope some law is on your side or that your issue is so trivial that resolving it is more cost effective then dealing with you.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Credit cards are also an instrument of christofascist pedophiles who want to ban all pornography and 'pornography' (they consider the existence of queer people to be porn)

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Huh? I don't think I've ever used a rental car service that didn't require a credit card. Exactly so they can charge for this sort of thing.

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Virtually any place that accepts a credit card will accept debit cards, too. Actually, most debit cards can be processed as credit cards. The comment you responded to simply highlighted that this trick is much easier to pull with credit card than a debit card, as the creditor hasn't yet been repaid for the credit issued.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

You mean an LLM that doesn't have the ability to understand context fails to make decisions that require context to do properly? Shocking /s

[–] coach_cheese@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except they are using computer vision, not an LLM

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

what do you think is driving the image recognition take that comes from the computer vision hardware?

it's an LLM.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 43 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like that shit with dodgy smoking detection in a hotel from last week..

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 hours ago

Those do exactly what they're supposed to do. They're even explicitly advertised as providing new revenue streams.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yup intentionally using dogy tools to extract more money from people under false pretenses, at this point I'm boycotting any company that claims to use AI, fuck em all

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck trying to boycott a car rental company, as far as I can tell they are all actually the same company with 5 different "brands". You rent from one but when you show up they send you to another one who has the car. It's crazy.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Use Turo. You can rent basic or fun/interesting cars directly from the owners.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago

Hertz is a ripoff and a hassle and little else

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 72 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (10 children)

The term AI itself is a shifting of goalposts. What was AI 50 years ago* is now AGI, so we can call this shit AI though it's nothing of the sort. And everybody's falling for the hype: governments, militaries, police forces, care providers, hospitals... not to speak of the insane amounts of energy & resources this wastes, and other highly problematic, erm, problems. What a fucking disaster.

If it wasn't for those huge caveats I'd be all for it. Use it for what it can do (which isn't all that much), research it. But don't fall for the shit some tech bro envisions for us.

* tbf fucking around with that term probably isn't a new thing either, and science itself is divided on how to define it.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

The current situation is a bubble based on an over hyped extension of the cloud compute boom. Nearly a trillion dollars of capital expenditure over the past 5 years from major tech companies chasing down this white whale and filling up new data centers with Nvidia GPUs. With revenue caping out at maybe 45 billion annually across all of them for “AI” products and services, and that’s before even talking about ongoing operation costs such as power for the data centers, wages for people working on them, or the wages of people working to develop services to run on them.

None of this is making any fucking profit, and every attempt to find new revenue ether increases their costs even more or falls flat on its face the moment it is actually shipped. No one wants to call it out at higher levels because NVIDIA is holding up the whole fucking stock market right now, and them crashing out because everyone stoped buying new GPUs will hurt everyone else’s growth narrative.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 8 hours ago

We called the basic movement of the grabbers in Defender AI to distinguish it from the fixed movement of Space Invaders. We still call that AI in modern videogames.

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