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Yes, I'm aware I can curse on the internet - it's not my first day here. I use the exact words I mean to use, and I'm more a fan of the precision F-strike than indiscriminately carpet-bombing the place with "fucks". Stop word-policing me (and others).

Edited to add alt text.

Yeah, this went over about as well as expected. And the irony and hypocrisy of the free speech absolutists coming out of the woodwork to tell us all what we can and can't say is not lost on me.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 118 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

I suppose i don't see the point.

The reader knows what you censored either way, so by using the words and then censoring them you don't achieve your implied preference for reducing vulgarity in communication (so it might be more impactful and irregular when applied) at all.

Anyone who reads "forking shut" knows what you are writing there in reality. Kinda feels to me like putting on censored porn to make it family friendly, that's not working. Either watch a family movie, or some actual porn in private.

The only reasonable course of action would be to avoid vulgarity and those stand-ins for it completely in your communication.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I brought this up recently. Talking around a topic is still talking about it. If you want to have an adult conversation, use adult words. No one is requiring you to curse at all, but if you’re going to, treat the audience as the age you’re targeting.

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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago (4 children)

No, fuck that.

Either stop self-censoring or don't structure your comments and sentences to use the word. This half-assed censoring is the lazy coward's way out

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wait why can't I say fork?

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Fuck that self-censorship bullshit.

You can use expletives, or you can use words that aren't expletives to express what you want to say. Both are valid choices.

Using bowdlerized versions of expletives like a child trying to get away with "naughty" words or a YouTuber/TikToker trying to prevent being demonetized, though? That's unnecessary to the point of obnoxiousness in an uncensored environment like Lemmy.

[–] scintilla@beehaw.org 8 points 5 days ago

People's fucking speech patterns are being affected by big brother and they are genuinely just ok with it. I don't know how to explain to someone that changing the way you talk changes the way you think and you are letting corpos do that to you. AND THEN THEY GO AND DEFEND IT.

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 78 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It feels infantile and childish to me when grown ass adults use cutie wootie wordy cursies to get around speaking like humans.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I guess I understand doing it around children, but I also think children swearing is hilarious, so...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 days ago

Yeah, there's nothing quite like the look on the face of a staunchly conservative bigot who's just been called a racist cunt by a based 8yo kid 😄

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't care if people censor their swears, my problem is the word substitutions making whatever they're saying nigh unreadable like "Unalive", "grape", "PDF file".

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

PDF file?

Edit: oh wait. I had to say it out loud. Pedophile.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 54 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You're more than welcome to say fork or frell or frack or feth or whatever you want. I LOVE a good "forking shirtballs"

Just understand that if you start typing "f*ck" then people, self included, will assume you are a moron who thinks this is tiktok and you need to keep all your content monetized. Well, some of us are olds and will think you are a moron who doesn't realize that gets you extra banned on gamefaqs. But most people will assume the tiktok and monetization thing.

[–] bdot@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i have had it with these monkey-fighting snakes, on this Monday to Friday plane!!!

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"You see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!"

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I refuse to get behind "unalive"

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[–] Klear@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The fucking problem with fucking self censorship, is it fucking often comes from people fucking compling with fucking corporate media fucking algorithmic censorship. Then internalizing the fucking limits of online spaces, it's a fucking sinister infiltration of the human fucking mind, and is driving a fucking shift to the fucking alt-right. Also you can say fuck on the Internet.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Our problem is not with the way people want to say things—its the necessity to do so due to censorship by corporations in an effort to cleanse everything for advertisers.

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[–] cm0002@piefed.world 32 points 6 days ago

Ok yea I'm sometimes guilty of this, but in a more joking kinda way usually

Except when you're posting someone else's content that the creator clearly intended to have a cussword, e.g. a comic, and either you or where you got it from censored it for "the algorithm". That shit is annoying AF

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

No, fuck that. Self censorship is shit that has been pushed by companies to sanitize the internet to make websites more appealing to advertisers. It's how we get people "unaliving" themselves with "pew pews" because people are now too fucking chickenshit to just write what they mean.

If you want to fucking swear, then fucking swear. If you don't want to, then don't fucking use some bitch-ass substitute.

[–] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People can obviously say whatever they want, but my opinion is that substituting curse words makes people sound juvenile and the intent is still the same as the original word. You are still making people do a curse conversion in their heads. So why even bother? Kind of like people who won’t say goddamnit, but they’ll say gawldamnit or something like that. Do you think you’re fucking tricking god? There are plenty of other words that can be used for emphasis.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

OK but holy forking shirtballs was contextually hilarious and I will always respect a good place reference.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 27 points 6 days ago

I think it kinda sucks, because I hate self censorship and the mechanisms that lead it it

If you want to do it for religious or moral reasons, I don't really care. You do you. I just don't want you censoring yourself for ad friendliness

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

As soon as some does it, every comment's like a three year old yelling, "You don't like curse words. Here's all the curse words I know!"

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 days ago

Ay yes lets let corporations rule all of us wven further by proxy. How dare we swear on a medium that could be reuploaded to their platform

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

I dunno, I think it's a little childish to censor swear words instead of finding a replacement or just saying the swear, but it's not that big a deal.

what's worse is people saying r*pe or rap3 instead of rape, or "sui" or "unalive" instead of suicide. people shouldn't have to figure out how every Homestuck character would say a word if they wanna block content including these things.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’ve always used frack , has a similar vibe to fuck

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

BSG, frak yeah!!

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 15 points 5 days ago

Lol the people in these comments who feel like someone choosing to use censored swearing is some kind of commentary on their intelligence or mental age. Fucking unreal. Y'all are no better than any other kind of "cringe police".

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 17 points 6 days ago

Real ones say removed (you tried to say bitch on .ml)

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

On one hand I don't care. On the other hand I also laugh when someone censors something like b*tt...

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

People should be allowed to do what’s in their comfort zone without fear of reprisal. But I’m still going to believe you’re a child if you can’t even curse in writing

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The real problem is people feeling the need to self-censor such things at all.

What sort of oppressive failure of a culture raises such values on a person.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 14 points 6 days ago

Shit you're right. I still hate it though

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Won't anybody think of the poor religious fundamentalists trying to impose their stunted world view and twisted values on the majority? It's those people that are responsible for much of the censorship we're facing today.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

Using the word Fork instead of Fuck IS a result if policing. We just want to undo that

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Lots of people don't like to swear in person, or will follow it with something like 'oops, did I say that out loud'.

I've never understood being upset when people self-censor online too. How does someone else not swearing effect you?

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I don't care either way, it's all part of online forums. People say something, others agree or disagree.

What I really dislike are Youtube channels having to censor themselves while reading court documents and such, in fear of getting their channel striked or demonetised.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 11 points 5 days ago

You can say f*ck on the internet

[–] don@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago

I don’t give a fat fink if a person doesn’t wish to use adult language, but I inherently object to it being censored being normalized on the internet. I’m old enough to remember being excited when I got to upgrade from 14.4 to 28.8, and still others remember 300 baud.

I know you’re aware you can curse on the web, I just object to it in ways other than politely asking you not to censor your posts especially when the curse word is ordinarily spelled there, but scribbled over, like TikTok content brought over here.

I’m not about to water start wrd-plcng nyne, but I am going to prtst if I see what looks to be an attempt to normalize cnsrshp on lmm*.

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