History Memes

I believe information technology/ technology in general enabled us to speedrun the final 800 years

People think America is in the grips of the "fall of the Roman Empire".

But sad reality is that it's more likely that America is in the grips of the "Fall of the Roman Republic", where the reins of power were coopted away from the senate by emperors and plutocrats.

That's what pisses me off. Assholes couldn't even wait 500 years or something before destroying everything we've built. We should be in a golden age.

Rome nearly collapsed many many times, and arguably did collapse when going from Republic to Principate, , then again in the third century before Diocletian reformed the empire and founded the Tetrarchy, which then collapsed and turned into the Constantinian system with constant civil wars.

Rome was very very far from stable, and in fact one of the defining phenomenons during the entire period was a lot of political violence and class struggles.

Me before Trump Term 2 Started: "M-maybe Trump is just our Caligula, and we have another century or two of peace and prosperity in us once he's gone?"

Me After Trump Term 2 Started: "Oh God, he's Honorius"

Wouldn't the Roman Republic be a more apt comparison? The US is moving into their empire phase.

... they've probably just had a lot more practice than the Roman Republic.

The Egyptian kingdom(s) laugh while watching from the couch.

They also spent several centuries in a state of decline and decay.

Trump wants to see if he can do it in four years.

To be fair .... if the Roman Empire had their hands on a modern technological military industrial complex and nuclear weapons, they probably would have blown up Germania and died in the nuclear winter a lot faster than what we're doing now.

lol, Daddy lasted longer. (British Empire)

As empire it doesn't have more than 80 years. Very pathetic.

with egypt behind him with a bigger club

I wonder

Did the Romans also declare History Was Over during the high-point of their empire?

Cuz the Americans did.... A-that when the Soviet Union crumbled and there was no one else to challenge them.

Things happen much faster nowadays, so 200 years today is like 2000 years back then ...

We're speed running

Augustus became emperor in 27 bc, the crisis of the 3rd century started in 235 ac. That's a 262 year run before shit really hit the fan. The empire reunited again towards the of the 3rd century, but more authoritarian, corrupt, unstable, ... than before. The reforms that would lead to medieval serfdom were introduced then as well.

Missed chance to say “absolutely pathetic”

Blessed be Rome, the eternal empire that never left our collective minds.

Let us forget about the corrupted states of north America. Fuck them.

The roman and Americans are moral monsters a true foundation for a society is about ethics and morals and justice not comfort greed lust control or inner demons

Assuming this is a jab on "empires only last 250 years", I would like to point out that the number usually refers to the estimate on how long, on average, is the golden age/peace period of a nation last after becoming the hegemon.

Don't worry, the US will survive long, but not as the superpower anymore. See Europe for example after their empires crumbled.

Which roman empire? There were a few

Also we made it about half as long as the roman republic?