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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 80 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Even in acknowledging the need for new leadership, he gets it wrong. Biden himself wasn't the problem, he did a perfectly fine job as president. The problem was you guys in Congress, and the DNC insisting that the Democrats move to the right.

Age may correlate with compromised ethics and standards, but it's not the cause. If the Democrats in Congress weren't such fucking pushovers and did good jobs, I wouldn't give a shit if they held office until they keeled over dead.

Fight - for us - and you can have the job as long as you want it. Refuse to fight? Then get the hell out of the way.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 46 points 5 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Biden was a decent president with terrible PR due to a fundamentally cowardly position through his entire presidency. The Dems were obviously scared to death of the MAGA Nazis, and spent 4 years trying to appease them.

Biden's biggest, and most enduring mistake was not ordering the arrest of Trump and his henchmen within minutes of his Inauguration. The entire criminal mob should have been detained in Gitmo as National Security threats, and undergone extensive interrogation regarding their nefarious dealings with Russia and others.

Sure, MAGA would have gone crazy, giving Biden the perfect excuse to put them down HARD, and then use their violence to declare them a violent terrorist hate group. In addition, any of their propagandists, from Fox News to Charlie Kirk and Hannity, would be rounded up for encouraging violence, this destroying the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and leaving the only coordinated messaging to the Democrats to justify the MAGA purge.

And don't forget, at that point we didn't know about his scheme to steal hundreds of classified documents yet. So while he was in custody, with the Biden administration saying that he was being investigated for treason, they would have discovered all those stolen documents, and EVERYONE in America would finally understand what traitors they are.

But instead, they did literally NOTHING. They ran a competent administration, which never once tried to promote their accomplishments, preferring to modestly let their successes speak for themselves, which was impossible in the wake of ferocious conservative propaganda.

Just weak, all the way around. Dems need to grow some balls. Dems play like it's middle school junior varsity softball, while MAGAs play major league football, and they are all on the same field.44

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 30 points 5 days ago

People were saying "but if you arrest the Republicans for crimes, they'll put you in camps when they get power back!". Now we have camps.

They're going to be evil no matter what. Might as well try to break their spine while you can.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I will say that the gerontocracy is deeply frustrating, but as you say, it’s the failure to act that’s the most infuriating part.

Sanders is old as fuck, but he has his head on straighter than almost anyone else in Congress. On the flip side, Jeffries seems to be doing a great job proving to everyone that he’s got the backbone of a wet fucking noodle, in terms of backing effective policy and action that would make a real difference.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Exactly! Jeffries was the exact example I had in mind of a Democrat who simply will not stand up for anyone.

His new nickname “AIPAC Shakur” is honestly hilarious and extremely on point

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure the Biden fiasco he was referring to was him trying to hold on to the presidency despite his waning health which ended up with the last minute change that cost them the election.

It's nice to see someone learning a lesson from that and coming to a good conclusion.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Biden was okay. He was not good. He did not secure our elections and he did not fix enough of what Trump destroyed. He was okay in that he didn't actively sabotage our country like Trump. He was not good.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Working beyond a reasonable retirement age indicates the candidate does not share my values on the subject of retirement.

I don't want my elected representatives representing the idea that We The People should be expected to continue to work into our 70's, 80's, 90's.

Government is serious, important business. There are plenty enough horseshit corporate jobs and needy non-profit charities to meet the perverted workophile needs of these elderly people who still feel compelled to labor.

Representatives of the people, they are not.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The thing is these people aren't working man. You and I are working, they are going to a meeting from time to time on their way to the gym and free restaurant reservations.

They are basically fucking around getting paid shit loads of bribe money to live the old man's dream.

[–] rezad@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

yes but the public office, specially the manager, need working brain that can tackle new ideas. I think 80 is too high. I think 70 is too high. maybe set it as the age of retirement.

they can still be as advisors though.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 52 points 5 days ago (13 children)

I think it's pretty fucking easy. If you're nearly 80 years old you shouldn't be running for reelection. That's not ageist, that's just God damn reality.

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[–] rezad@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (12 children)

In my opinion there should be an age limit for public office. I think 70 should be the max. I my even go to 65.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just go with the minimum retirement age. Earliest age to claim retirement benefits in the US is 62. If you wanna be generous, full benefits start at 66 years and 10 months.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

on the surface that sounds reasonable, linking the age to run with the age to retire. If you're going by todays "retirement" age and social security age...

But what will happen in practice is then the politicians will vote to raise the age of retirement, thereby giving them more time in office. Meanwhile, we're gonna have a lot more Walmart Greeters than we have positions. (assuming your local Wallyworld still has greeters..... and that the greeter isn't AI)

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Two term limits for everyone in government.

Term limits make sense for the highest positions that have little oversight, but implementing term limits for minor positions encourages political cronyism over technocratic experience

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

"We need generational change!"

(We elected someone who is the same age Biden was in 2021.)

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Waits until retirement to make a political statement rather than retiring as a political statement.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

Well, that's one.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Hey,at least someone is kinda sort of listening. I believe he has a referencing the fact they switched candidates may d stride because the right kept saying he was too old. Now, Trump is dying in office, literally, and has long gone senile but the right keeps championing "their guy"?! The Dems are far too reactionary. Let them spew shit. Ignore.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago
[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Biden fiasco? Biden?

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

Uh oh! This is NOT going to Go over Well at the DNC!

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Enjoy your millions and grand children.

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