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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So, I now know what dem scum is top of the list to get primaried

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 23 hours ago

Nah, that's the future of the Democratic party. If he doesn't like it, he can quit, and join the MAGAs. He's already talking like them.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than any other system in the history of the world. Create more innovation. Socialism has failed everywhere,” Suozzi said in the interview, which he even posted to his social media accounts.

Oh? Like social security, medicare, medicaid, public schooling, and stimulus packages? All socialist policies that make America work. But no, it must be the billionaires and billion dollar corporations.

This country would have broken before World War 1 if not for socialist policies that were enacted to save it from total collapse. And here we are at the precipice once again and this fuckweed is calling for everyone to abandon their parachute and commit a trust fall with the greediest most insubstantial people to have ever existed. AKA capitalists

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dare say, capitalism, by it's very definition, has CREATED all poverty.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalism needs homelessness, joblessness and poverty in order to function. Probably preaching to the choir, but it doesn't create poverty because it is bad as an economic system, it creates poverty because it works so well.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I more meant that it's very nature is that it is a system where wealth both exists and is accumulated. If we didn't have money, we wouldn't have poverty.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

True but the problem isn't just money, its private property. Money is how social relations under capitalism are managed. It isn't the root of the problem, but it creates lots of avenues for exploitation. I would like to live in a world without money but we have to organize and fight for it.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 17 hours ago

I think the way forward is to create a hybrid of socialism and capitalism - the social to address all basic needs of people, such as healthcare, generic food, a boring car, free shelter, utilities, ect. Capitalism should be solely reserved for luxuries, such as yachts, vacations, fancy meals, figurines, art, media, and so on.

It is my belief that capitalism is an optimization method, but like all optimizations, it can detract from the results if it exists for its own sake, rather than to facilitate the goal. In the case of society, that would be to promote goods and services that help individuals grow as humans.

We don't want merch of a given fulfillment to be given to everyone, because not everyone is a fan of HP Lovecraft or My Little Pony, so that would waste lots of resources if we didn't have capitalism to adjust their supply for cultural demands. However, all humans need to eat, rest, and have agency. In such a case, it is much better to "waste" resources to make sure everyone does alright.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does Tom Suozzi get to determine who joins the party? Sounds like he should leave the democratic party if he takes issue with what the party members clearly want.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Democrats aren't a party. They're a voting blob. When DSA becomes an actual party it will shake the foundations of the whole political system.

80000 members, and they're terrified. Not because we are socialists, but because we are organized. Wanna scare the ruling class, give em a taste of DSA derangement syndrome? Join.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

The Democrats aren’t a party. They’re a voting blob.

They are a blow job to the wealthy disguised as a party.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buddy, Mamdani won the primary. He is what the democrats in NYC want. The DSA just needs to lean into this and start running lower level candidates for all roles.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 22 hours ago

Why are you calling me buddy? It comes off patronising, so i would love to hear about your involvement in left wing organizing, or any actual organizing. Are you in DSA? Or are you a democrat talking down to DSA, as dems do compulsively to the working class, telling us to stay in our lane? I honestly cant tell. DSA should run lower level campaigns in addition, i agree, and I think Mamdani is going to inspire much much more of that.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

YES PLEASE START A LEFTIST PARTY

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Party purge is very Lenin. Borderline Stalin. How socialist of you.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the DSA's ultimate goal, my guy. Use DNC infrastructure to its advantage, and use that as a spring board to breaking with the Dems. At what point that happens is debated within the organization. But this guy will get his wish, sooner or later, especially if the DNC continues to have zero sense of self preservation

[–] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Debatable, as you mentioned, but I love your energy. It was shocking how much of a party focus we had this year compared to 2023.

What a time to be a democratic socialist!

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 126 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How about you leave. Like, what are y'all even fucking doing anymore? You guys are more unpopular than you ever have been and it's literally your own fault.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

They'll just go Republican and cash in on their servitude to the rich

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

The DNC Dems are there to prevent a progressive party from forming. The DNC Dems are working together with the Reps to fight against the people of America for the rich oligarchs running the country.

We warned that this is what is going on before the last presidential election and before that. But people wouldn't want to listen, instead defending "slow genocide" and "lesser of two evils" and other insane statements. Now they keep getting screwed as the DNC Dems understand that they will keep getting away with it.

[–] mateofeo85@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Collecting their kickbacks.

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

They could become the traditional republicans with what their views are these days.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thank you Tom Suozzi for outing yourself you fucking fuck.

The Democratic Party leadership and establishment is not there to help you. They are there to stop you. They are there to act as a honey trap to capture and neutralize progressive/leftist politicians and policies while the Republicans implement the authoritarian police state that the donors of both parties need to quell the inevitable rebellion that will occur once the general population fully realizes the existential crisis we are in.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Primaries are where we can fight. Every DINO needs to be primaried, and we need to start fucking showing up to primaries. IIRC primary elections are voted in by only like 10-20% of eligible voters.

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can see in this post how the DNC tries to invalidate even fighting in the primaries.

  1. Mamdani wins the primary
  2. The DNC does everything in their power to make him lose in the general election
  3. When he loses, they can point to that and go “see voters just don’t want that!” In the next primary.

So even after winning in a primary, anyone left of Nixon is going to get rat fucked by the party so they can keep up their bullshit electability narrative.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Blue no matter who!

Not like that.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Honestly, I think the DNC is doing everything in their power to make him win, and it's fun to see them do it.

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

If the dems use skullduggery to avoid primaries, they are no longer ‘the lesser evil’ and the old blue-no-matter-who arguments do not apply anymore.

It’s not that deep. Give me a real choice in a primary.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, primary this guy. Let him give his seat to a better representative.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This guy will start digging when he hits rock bottom.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl -4 points 18 hours ago

Sorry to be that guy but AOC has become a part of the party. She lied about Biden/Harris doing something about genocide and didn't vote in favor of banning weapons to Israel.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Sure Tom, we need more Schumers.

Lately I’ve been noticing (not sure what to call it) this “culture shock” with people around 20,40 and 60. I’m almost 40 and caught myself thinking about good ol 90s films but then again I checked myself and realized how and why things changed and what I started missing still exists. Maybe I’m noticing a difference? But why is this a human behavior and why does it have to be used in politics?

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 days ago

Here’s another one to primary. Get on it, America!

[–] littletoolshed@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“…don’t want that in my party…”

Is this guy the new owner or something? I’ve never heard of him.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

"I just bought a bunch of Democrat senators. What can I do about all these pesky socialists in my party? They won't accept any of my bribes."

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Non-Post link here:

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/politics/suozzi-mamdani-ucap9t7r

Ideally we should have four parties:

Progressive
Corporate Democrat
Corporate Republican
Batshit Crazy

As it stands now, the Batshit Crazies have taken over and the Progressives are disenfranchised.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Batshit Crazy

The name lacks symmetry. How about "regressives"

Thanks. Most of the other news outlets are less sensational, focusing on his drawing parallels between Mamdani and Trump, as well as drawing lines between capitalism and socialism. He's... not very progressive at all...

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/tom-suozzi-democratic-party-donald-trump/

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Vote blue no matter who, am I right?

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's make a deal, Tom. Get proportional representation, one of the variations of voting that fixes first past the post, legislate away citizens united, and have fair, publicly funded elections, and you can have the party you want.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are there even guys with car salesman hair style that aren’t douchebags?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, they're mainly in retro country-western bands though.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Well, the good news is that we all know centrists will side with capital. The last step before fascism is almost always cowardly centrists trying and failing to maintain their shreds of status in a world they can’t understand because they lack a binding moral framework.

That’s actually the bad news, I guess. But at least we know it’s coming.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 14 points 2 days ago

Suozzi should eat shit and die. Guess we can't all get what we want

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, entryism can eat my whole asshole

It's clear what the people what. It's not socialism, but it's definitely is progressive. And that's good enough for now

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