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[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 356 points 2 years ago (72 children)

"Israel has a right to self-defence, but it has to be done within international law ... cutting water, cutting electricity, cutting food to a mass of civilian people is against international law," said EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell on Tuesday (10 October).

He repeated the view more than once in his press briefing. "The Palestinian people are also suffering," he added.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. This cycle of violence and repression needs to stop.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

That's the point. The game is to be the last man standing with at least partial vision.

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 205 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The UN and EU consider lots of things Israel does illegal. We just don't do anything about it and they don't care.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is true. But it is also because there isn't a much better alternative.

The Palestinians don't have a Nelson Mandela, MLK or Mahatma Gandhi kind of person that the western world can rally around and support.

Like, I'm sitting here at home in Europe, thoroughly disapproving of Israel, while being also fully disgusted by what Hamas did.

And I understand why Palestinians fight. I can understand that they can't be fully pacifist and that they don't have the capability to wage a normal war, so they result to asymmetric warfare.

But if they had just cleanly killed or kidnapped the adults and spared the children, that would have been the minimum to not fully alienate a lot of people who are sympathetic to their cause.

I guess Yasser Arafat was the best they had and it only went downhill after that.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

The problem I have with the "both sides" argument is while I agree we should not approve of Hamas' actions, Israel routinely murders civilians without consequence. We tut and tsk but we still send them basically unlimited aid and approval.

Yes both sides behave badly but one side does so with our explicit support.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't forget how Israel sells world-class spyware to despots and dictators, who use it to terrorise journalists and political opponents.

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[–] Cerbero@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Thing also is that those people were also hated during thier time and also called terrorists. There’s no good options for a leader sadly.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

The West called Mandela a terrorist until he won and they killed MLK

So

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[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

The UN condemns Israel as a pastime activity. Nobody in Israel cares what they say at this point.

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[–] supersane@lemmy.ml 96 points 2 years ago (45 children)

Obviously illegal. Collective punishment is a war crime and makes Israel a monster. Imagine if there was a murderer in your building and the feds blew the entire building up.

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel is willingly lead by a monster.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

"The only democracy in the Middle East"

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[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 2 years ago

Well, no shit. And nothing will be done about it.

Not directed at OP

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (24 children)

The EU may support Israel, but right now they're calling them out for this bullshit and I'm applauding them for that. Hurting innocent civilians is never a good idea no matter which side of the conflict does it.

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[–] Maddie47@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 years ago

Gaza doesn’t have any oil so nobody will help.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 39 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Hasn't this always been the case?

Israel has not been a shining example of virtue over the years. I'm not excusing the disgusting actions by the other side, where they are proved true, as some of the pictures have already been discounted, but this would only make Israel come down harder.

I don't the have an answer, but what ever us happening now is certainly not it.

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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (7 children)

So was the blockade. and they did nothing about it . bunch of spineless hypocrites

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[–] pno2nr@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm surprised they haven't used phosphorus on Gaza yet.

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[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Wait! I know what Borrell will do: expel Israel from Eurovision! That will serve them right and start behaving!

I don't expect much more from anything leaded by Borrell. We know him well in Spain.

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago

I'm going to be real, I doubt they can even muster the will to write a strongly worded letter with the kinds of members who make up the EU.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Do unto others as others have done unto you.". -- Israel

That was not the best takeaway, but here we are.

[–] crawley@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Palestine cut off Israel's water and electricity?

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