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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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There's a campaign going on to push the idea that Democrats are changing sides after watching Charlie Kirk videos. Interestingly, even though the bots are posting the exact same copy-pasted message, they seem to be controlled by an AI, since they will respond to comments, and even basic techniques for outing an AI (like "ignore all previous instructions" comments) work against them. So the first post is hardcoded, but they're using an LLM for the responses.

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All blue check marks. Anyone who's actually paid for verification on Twitter is most likely a bot completely reversing it's point. Someone without a check mark is more likely to be a real person.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Actually, it is 100% certain that anyone posting on Twitter is either a bot or a troll. Once you realize that, it's easy to completely walk away from Twitter.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like we need to pressure more off.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how you do it... any time someone references twitter let them know that you don't consider that a reputable source since it is all trolls and bots.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I wish Zelensky wasn’t on Twitter so much :/

[–] sudo@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

No, there still are real people on twitter, unfortunately, particularly elites and journalists who were the main reason why twitter ever mattered. Anyone else though can safely assumed to be bots if they have a blue check mark.

If they don't have a blue check mark then they don't have paid api access, meaning their either an extremely advanced bot system that can circumvent twitters bot prevention, or they're a real person.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago

If I had a dollar for every Republican claiming they were a Democrat until The Democrats Went Too Far, I'd have about $70M

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 47 points 1 day ago

r/conservative has a post everyday how "The woke left has finally pushed me away!" and it's just somebody describing how they were always conservative from the getgo

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meta - it's sort of cynically amusing that, as a generalization, the right has tended to lag behind in taking advantage of modern communication tools that generally presume a good faith effort at telling the truth - like Wikipedia - but have so easily leapt to the forefront of the newest dynamic in online communication - lying with AI.

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago

"Yeah i voted harris, but the way that nazis throat exploded was a thing of beauty. I want that for myself, too."

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’ve been a Democratic voter my whole life, but when I heard Charlie Kirk talk about how black people are naturally stupid and violent and taking white mens jobs, and how queer people should be stoned to death, and how Biden should be executed for reasons, I decided to register Republican.

Tap for spoilerBecause doing so buys me time to escape this place before they come for me.

/s

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Just like the hate religion that kirk represented, they need to lie and distort reality to gain members. Just giving people their history and current goals only appeals to insane people. They have to lie. They must lie to survive.

Don't believe the "were against hate, we're all peace, love, and a fictional jebus!" That's the lie that funds their hate. Stop following and funding hate religions.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Down with religion!

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I mean, this is the same tactic that got Charlie Kirk and TPUSA popular in the first place. None of that shit was organic.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

That seems to be happening on reddit too

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

The more I've seen about Charlie Kirk, after his death, the more I dislike him. (Also a Democratic voter).

[–] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dang – we should probably all talk about that guy instead of the Epstein files

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

DAE WE SHOULD HAVE A DAY OF SAD SAD FOR CHARLIE BECAUSE HE WAS A MAN OF HONOUR!!ONEELEVEN11!

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

Are you sure @HARDforTRUMP and @stopRINOkemp aren't real democrats?

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

...why? Do they think this will help them somehow? What could it possibly do, convert the last remaining non-right wingers left on Twitter?

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's to make already right wing people more emboldened. If they think everyone agrees with them, they'll be more outward about their hate

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Look up False Consensus Bias. Humans naturally assume they're in the majority, this just adds a layer of confirmation bias to that mix, lol.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The masses are very sheepish. Read enough of your fellow party ilk has gone a different way, then you start to question it.

Also, easy AI campaign to spin up GOP base. Then they can report "Dems changing their mind about Charlie Kirk" here is our Twitter/X proof

[–] Sunshine@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Lying works too often.

[–] goodboyjojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most accounts on twitter and other social media are bots and ads. reminds me of dead internet theory

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And real humans posting in bad faith. The internet effectively died when the rot of bad faith right wing posters had metastasized.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Reading Twitter is a bit tiring. I block like a hundred blue checkmarks every time. There used to be a firefox extensions that does this automatically, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work anymore.

[–] BierSoggyBeard@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean...who the hell uses xitter anyway?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sir, the restrooms are for paying customers only.

[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That whole place is a toilet.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 day ago

The most disgusting toilet in all of Scotland.

Xitter: hold my shit.