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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 229 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My favorite part was when Hegseth talked about removing politics from the military, and then trump spent 20 minutes whining about politics.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 131 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hegseth disrupted the lives of 800 highly educated military leaders to call them fat. 🤣

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

did you see how long they had to sit with his talk and trumps and the stupid music playing. well over two hours but hard to say.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] massacre@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He meant remove Democrat politics, not GOP ones.

[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly.

These scumbags talk one thing and do the opposite.

They deserve the gallows before they take the rest of that shit country down with them.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I'm afraid it's far too late for that. You think things are bad now? You just wait. Shit's gonna start getting extremely ugly when the massive house of cards that is the current US economy starts falling down - which I personally would normally peg to start happening in earnest by early next year, but with Trump deliberately destroying the very source that would let us all know the numbers behind what's actually going on in the economy all bets on timing are off. The longer it gets put off, the worse it's gonna be, however.

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[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just like Christian’s don’t consider Christianity anything besides “the truth” American conservatives/maga/gop also don’t think their political beliefs are political, just “common sense”

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 176 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Hegseth is a cartoon villain that shouldn't be anywhere near a position of power

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has reposted and praised a video interview of a self-described Christian nationalist pastor whose church doesn't believe women should be allowed to vote.

Just an utter scumbag.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We should start treating these goons like actual cartoon villains. Cartoon villains usually get thwarted on a weekly basis.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're living in the Boondocks cartoon.

The white villains get away with everything.

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[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

That's too kind, they deserve to be the victims in a slasher flick.

Or just put them on a Star Trek set wearing their favorite color.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Or just put them on a Star Trek set wearing their favorite color.

Make damn sure it's TOS, otherwise they'll be in Command.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"All I've had from them so far, from the people I've talked to, is a combination of disbelief that some of them were made to fly from, some of them, Asia, from all over the world ... all the way to Quanico to listen to the same familiar type of culture war complaints that we've been having since Trump was reelected," she added, calling Trump's remarks a "campaign-style stump speech."

They love making people do shit like this, and absolutely despise being reminded that someone can make them do it.

As long as they don't bitch out and resign, this is going to backfire on trump.

Even if he tries to kick them out, they can drag their feet thru the official process, and if trump starts circumventing that widescale, the rest will close ranks and do a coup out of pure self interest.

You don't get that high up without putting your career over everything, and trump just threatened their careers.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Even if he tries to kick them out, they can drag their feet thru the official process, and if trump starts circumventing that widescale, the rest will close ranks and do a coup out of pure self interest.

Things might get spicy when we finally have folks that decide to uphold their oaths to uphold the Constitution. We certainly haven't seen any in the Executive Branch yet, and most of the Judicial and Legislative seems to be abdicating their oaths too.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Note the oath the enlisted take specifically says they will follow the orders of the President.

That's not the one that matters.

The officer's oath does not include that, specifically for this reason:

I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. (Title 5 U.S. Code 3331, an individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services)

https://www.army.mil/values/officers.html

I'm 99% sure that these oaths apply across the board regardless of branch, because they apply to more than just commissioned officers.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We certainly haven’t seen any in the Executive Branch yet, and most of the Judicial and Legislative seems to be abdicating their oaths too.

And these generals will follow suit. People keep saying how serious and career-driven they are. What makes you think they won't put their career over the constitution like everyone else?

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

”If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room, of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future” -Trump, to the entire military leadership

If enough of them decide simultaneously that Trump is the main impediment to their careers, then you have a good, old-fashioned military coup.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the rest will close ranks and do a coup out of pure self interest.

No they won't, Americans won't do shit. That much is painfully obvious to everyone in the world by now.

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[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Something truly ridiculous is Hesgeth lectured these generals on grooming and hygiene but he is actually on the record as a filthy weirdo who doesn't believe in washing his own hands: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47201923

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He's talking about getting rid of military members who can't shave due to medical reasons.

context

People with curly hair can have ingrown hairs from shaving. Most people with no shave chits are black.

Don't let him trick you into thinking this speech is just stupid. Its stupid, but he's also trying to give generals plausible deniability to remove minority military members and women.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Somewhere between 1 in 2 to 2 in 3 African American men experience a condition called pseudofolliculitis barbae where, due curliness and firmness of hair, a clean shave results in significant local inflammation, irritation and discomfort.

The treatment is to not to shave too close to the skin..

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe he was trying to nazi dogwhistle, would not surprise me if he plagiarised an SS.

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I hope every single one of them realizes that they were used as seat fillers for more culture war bullshit. I’m sure they can see right through these two man-babies for the weak human beings they are and will think twice when they’re asked to do something illegal/immoral for them.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mussolini promised the world to his troops, and was seen as a competent soldier himself (I admit I know little on his military prowess). Our regime is led by a diaper wearing, flat footed nepo baby who hired a pretty boy guardsman who spent more time in front of a camera wielding propaganda than he did a rifle to lead our entire military. These generals meanwhile get chastised and left to fix every fuckup generated by the administration with no reward for themselves or the men and women under their command. Then they see any hope of rewards in retirement after decades of service go up in smoke. Yeah, I'm not too worried about them doing illegal actions on US citizens. I'm becoming more afraid of a military coup however. If our balance of power and law becomes obsolete, then they may see it as reason to change the executive power as it stands.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

I was kinda hoping that they would have done that coup today and put those two on trial for being enemies of the constitution. The military swears an oath to the constitution and those two knuckleheads were directing the generals to do unconstitutional shit. I’m pretty sure this coup scenario would be better than what is going on currently

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[–] F_State@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean, insofar as Hegseth has internalized the culture war and can't stop being a fox news host long enough to do his job. I think priming the Military to eventually use it against the American population was the main purpose of this gathering.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m surprised that the pentagon reporter is allowed to talk about this.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Soon to be “ex-pentagon reporter….”

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Or possibly another citizen deportee. Damn i hate this timeline

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[–] chad@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Would have been a great opportunity for a military coup.

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just curious how much it cost American tax payers for this meeting that could have been an email?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Speak for yourself, I would have paid DIRECTLY to the defense department to put Hegseth on stage in front of hundreds or thousands of career military professionals from all walks of life and all branches of our highest levels of defense planning and strategy so they all get to see him in person for what he is, a wannabe TED-talking, sound-bite spewing grifter civilian with no leadership qualifications past running a podcast. Telling them each "how it's going to be" in a sad, rambling, uninspired, chat-GTP written lecture that you would expect from a CEO of a silicon valley startup hungup on military aesthetics.

There is no better way to ensure that every competent and concerned armed-forces leader is on the same page as getting them all in a room together to listen to these clowns perform their circus act.

If it comes to it, we do not win revolutions without the military. We need this kind of performance.

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[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Well, expect all of them to be removed in favor of people who did, by the end of the week.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You won't find anybody who liked Hegseth's speech, because it didn't appeal to anybody. It was both naive and condescending, and it was presented by a guy who nobody would respect in the first place. Nobody thinks the problem with our military is that some general is overweight.

But I'm sure it would be easy to find some people who say they liked the speech. It's the same way that some people say they like Donald Trump. Strange how often those same people say that he's the dumbest person on the planet once they get too fed up with him and leave.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

No. But you will find boot lickers who want a promotion/more "responsibilities" who will kneel down and asik hegseth if he wants the hot or cold blowie if it gets them the power of the general who got caught yawning.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The military may just have to step in and save us on this one guys. This administration is a direct threat to democracy and everyone who has provided material support for Project 2025 is a traitor.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 week ago

The military isn't going to step in and save us unless they feel strongly that the public will support them wholeheartedly, and they aren't going to feel that way if there isn't massive and unprecedented civil unrest. That means the onus is on us.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The military ain't gonna "step in". The only way that could possibly happen is if we have major and sustained civil demonstrations in our cities. Even then, it may take mass civilian casualties before the military intervenes.

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

His speech reminded me of the ranting self-absorbed monologues my father would go on when he was in the middle of a coke binge. The manic energy and barely concealed narcissistic rage while trying so hard to convince us of his righteousness and varity. It usually ended with him flipping the coffee table or punching a hole in the wall.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Hegseth and Trump were treating it like a political event where people worship them.

But these weren't their superfans attending a rally. They were professionals ordered to be there and to listen. And even if they were fans, you don't fucking clap and cheer at a military briefing.

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Everyday I think we're getting dumber

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welcome to Costco, I love you.

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[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They probably bugged their hotel rooms to see if they talk shit about trump

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did....did Hegseth even make it to NCO?

Christ.

No.

He was a Princeton ROTC brat and made it all the way to Major, O-4, in twenty fucking years.

Throw that level of 'career development' onto an enlisted track, and no, he would not have even gotten to an NCO rank, which typically start around E-5, Sergeant.

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[–] deacon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Soon to be former pentagon reporter I’m sure.

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