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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 319 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

So they're torturing her. Israel is torturing her.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 151 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Israel has no way to win in this situation. Torturing her will result in media backlash. Executing her would only make a martyr, which is even worse. Somehow, Israel didn’t choose to kick her out immediately.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 182 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

The worst thing Israel could have done to discredit Greta Thunberg and damage her brand would have been to give her a nice meal, a warm bed in a nice hotel, gently push her onboard the next 1st class flight back to Stockholm the next day and release a statement telling her to go play SJW somewhere else. Instead, they're doing everything possible to confirm they're truly bad people, like dumbasses.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

True.

And I think I have an explanation for that:

We do not often read how Israeli politicians talk, verbatim*. They got used responding only to their own media landscape, where apparently they can go much farther in their rhetoric (and subsequent actions) without repercussions. There's also some deep-seated misogyny specifically against women of other race/religion or however they define that for themselves. Like, they'd never do that if she was a typical NY Jew, for example.

Of course that isn't the whole picture; we must also look at the unquestioning support they've been getting from most "Western" countries which no doubt contributed to them developing this sort of impunity.

* Netanyahu often speaks English when addressing the world. It's still bad enough, but it allows him to present a different picture to the world than to his constituency.

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[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Being plain evil without pretending otherwise has worked out just fine until now, why would they stop?

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Exactly! They picked one of the foolish routes instead.

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[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't they already do that once?

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 142 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They realize that kicking her out just means she will be on her way back on the next boat. They are trying to intimidate her into not coming back.

I hope the Swedish government has a harsh answer for one of their citizens getting kidnapped in International Waters.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One they haven't given for genocide?

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, because she is swedish

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That they failed to apply last time she was "detained" by Israel?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yes, because I hope.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Why does this matter? Why do they care?

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[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Israel has no way to win in this situation.

They could have not taken her hostage.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago

But then more people might be willing to risk it and ride in aid. Israel definitely doesn't want that. (Not saying it's a good thing just the optics would cause them just as many problems)

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 7 points 1 week ago

Too late for that. They screwed up.

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could publicly execute her and governments around the world would still support them.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 16 points 1 week ago

Well some of them would, because that’s how international politics works. However, a surprising number of countries have recognized Palestine, so I think the number of friends Israel has might be in a decline.

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So out of character!

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 148 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel is a terrorist country.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Am I wrong in saying they're (seemingly) quantifiably worse than every other "terrorist" country in the region? I know plenty have human rights issues, but I can't imagine anyone is competitive on sheer quantity of murder and atrocities!?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are no others actively perpetrating genocide on the massive scale Israel is. Morally and legally that puts Israel in a class of its own.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But they're more friendly to Christians, which is all the West cares about

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago

They're not even... They are murdering Palestinian Christians right alongside the Muslims.

American Christians only care about Israel's role in the "end times."

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 112 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The Swedish government, and the EU commission is not making nearly enough noise as it should here.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 23 points 1 week ago

Kowtowing to israel? Imagine.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just Crimes Against Humanity Things.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

There are no doubts.

The full on attempt to suppress the fact has failed.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Exactly the kind of thing Israel would do. Such a horrible nation, such horrible people.

Like that time they used an armored water cannon full of stinky shit... Or the time they cut the tail off a CIA agents pet dog.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel has their buddy America to back them up.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

More than a buddy... America is the reason they are capable of any of this. It's disgusting what the failed leadership here has allowed, and Trump has opened every single floodgate in his second term, empowering them like never before.

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do they purposely use the worst photos of her?

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[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sooo is anyone gonna do anything here? I know USA would back up Israel here but, like, someone help?

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

They will be treated kinda badly in order to encourage them to not get on the next set of boats coming down, then they will be released.

Some will rejoin the next flotilla will which will hopefully be a hundred boats or more and maybe some of the countries will provide naval cover to stop the drones from attacking them on the seas.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago

Are we ready to believe victims now? Are we ready to act?

[–] vane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

that bloody sucks

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

At least they haven’t lost her.

[–] ExploitedAmerican@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I bet those bedbugs were vectors for some type of bioweapon so they could eliminate their greta problem. She needs to get checked out by a trusted physician asap.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dude. They're bedbugs. We don't need extra shit on top.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey at least she has a bed, amirite? checkmate

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[–] Trill88@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

Sleep tight... And you know the rest!

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