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[–] tym@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

It's not a bubble, it's something way worse - "the reduction of the employee cost burden"

AI exists to allow wealth to access skill without allowing skill to access wealth.

Hyper-local renaissance is the only answer. Get to your village and out of the city while you still can.

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The crash is going to be spectacular.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How will we crash if the White House controls the Fed? This is gonna be a different kind of financial catastrophe.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

you can maintain make-believe "all good nothing to see here" for only so long until the reality becomes undeniable. given that cost of living crisis is already running roughshod through the economy - it's not a good sign and it will get worse.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That’s what I’m saying, it’s probably not going to be a crash, just the cost of living crisis on steroids. My moneys still on mass hunger riots next year

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Even last year I would've said "hold ya horses, pardner" but these days I think you're onto something. The way big tech keeps on screwing everybody while other parts of the economy actively sink is concerning.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Double check your investments and be sure none of them are reliant on AI for future operative certainty.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Haha joke's on you, I can't afford to invest

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone that has been through both of these crashes, 17 times the size of the .com bubble is really, really bad. I don't think we can even conceive of how big a hole this is going to make.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

don't worry the military tech bubble will get it covered)

jokes aside - i'm working in consulting and lots of those AI startups are straight up money laundering operations that don't really need neither market research nor talent pool studies - pretty much everything is for show and next to zero real longterm planning. A rude awakening is long overdue for these hotshots.

One time I had a misfortune to ask what one of these startups is going to do when their product will fail to gain traction (it was yet another grammar check sentence finishing app like Grammarly) - how are they gonna pivot and their CEO laughed at me and said "we are going to work hard to make it a success" which is like super stupid thing to say when your project is in the superoversaturated market affected by cost of living crisis with customer engagement on a consistent decrease for the last 3 years and your product costs almost the same as the market leader but is also way worse.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ever since the 90's, I've often wondered if some of these bubble companies are just the living end of the "eat the rich" philosophy. I can see no more practical a way to achieve this, than to convince investment capital to empty their wallets, funneling it straight into the pockets of dozens if not hundreds more people. It's hardly Robin Hood, but it's also cash that's no longer hoarded at the top.

Plus, we also know that a worthwhile goal is to not go the distance, but simply become a tasty snack for a bigger company before you go bankrupt. This lets your flimsy business model and weak patent portfolio become someone else's problem.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

it is like that with a lot of Ukranian startups - hotshot all the way then sell off and it fucks shit up for others who actually want to turn their startups into a long-running expanding businesses.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A genuine stock market collapse would be very interesting

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

It's ok the stock market isn't the economy and everyone will be fine would you like to open a few hundred wells Fargo chase CITIZENS accounts preloaded with the presidential collection of crypto including 500 newly minted "Barons" ?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The cool thing about inflation is it hides shitty stock market performance.

The greater the inflation, the more stocks and GDP go up!

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Guys compare the size of American debts to Canada's

[–] mrnarwall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I read through the non paywalled link and I couldn't find any info on if this analysis adjusts for inflation or not. 17 times larger (before inflation possibly) seems so ripe for cherry picked data points in the name of sensationalism, that I wanted to confirm this one idea, and I didn't. Did anyone else find anything like that?

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Chinese and Indians are watching what is happening and busting their guts out laughing.

[–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

AI: Actually Indians

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 3 days ago (8 children)

And yet, the MBAs continue to pump money into it like AI doesn't fail to provide any value in 80% of their shoehorned implementations.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's wild how many good uses of this tech there are, and how it's mostly implemented in asinine ways, instead. It's great for brainstorming. Not so great for customer fucking service.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AI is taking customer service jobs by storm because 80% of the tasks they do are answering the same questions over and over for Grandma who can’t remember how to turn on the TeeVee.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess that's true. Customer service has almost never been able to actually help me, even before.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If you get to a human who cares, they often can, but it’s even harder now that AI is in the picture.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The problem is when you're part of the 20% who has an issue that isn't solved by the basic help steps. It's so damn frustrating to tell an AI multiple times that you need isn't covered by the basic steps

I'm pretty sure the models are trained primarily by the help docs, rather than previous support incidents, which would explain the extreme insistence on performing basic support steps repeatedly

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Next bubble gonna be 64× ?

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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 46 points 3 days ago (6 children)

it's going to be pretty cool when the USD is annihilated by this

they really boned themselves by concentrating all of it among themselves and basing its value off of fake proof of work factories

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry that i must inform you that the world today is one big pot. The 2008 crisis created by the USA housing bubble, affected the whole world. An USD annihilation today after a big bubble burst, means total collapse.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If the USD is annihilated the great depression will look like nothing. Breton Woods ended but America is still smack dab in the middle of everybody's economy. It's why no one is calling in their debt, but keep buying it. It's a fucking global ponzi scheme.

Edit: I just looked it up and 88% of global currency trades involve the dollar.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Its the reserve currency of the world. The only thing that could replace it today is the yuan, which China is absolutely prepared for when that day comes.

The euro could also replace it, but would need additional changes from the governing body of the EU first as its meant to be an amalgamated currency and cant produce enough to be a reserve currency at the moment.

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All these built out data centers are going to be eye sores when they go bankrupt.

[–] Philote@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Bubble scientists need to adjust for inflation.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

And the fact that they are willing and ready to print more money

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsE0BwQ3l8U&t=1492s

More of the same. I can't wait to check out from society and specifically the tech world.

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