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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 137 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Except when they want to port the game from GameCube to Wii, so rather than modify the game, they just mirror the entire game to make everything gay so the motion controls can be straight.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I was so ticked when they changed him to be right handed just “because that’s what most people are”

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I played Twilight Princess on Wii and GameCube, and it was pretty fucking cool to feel like I was swinging the master sword. I probably would have just switched hands if they hadn't. It would have been an adjustment, but I would have gotten there.

But I can understand not wanting to create a barrier to entry.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago (5 children)

But I can understand not wanting to create a barrier to entry.

Unless it's left-handed people. They can get fucked.

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[–] RedSnt 60 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Dev: "This man is ripped in the apocalypse"
Gamers: "Yeah that makes sense, you'd probably be more out and about"

Dev: "This woman is ripped in the apocalypse"
Gamers: "what the actual fuck"

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not even ripped or anything. Just "doesn't wear makeup and get hair done professionally during a zombie apocalypse" seems to piss gamergate jackasses off.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, that doesn't really track, tons of people fetishize so-called 'muscle mommies', lol.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, the problem is you can't be a muscle mommy unless you're hot. If you've got muscle but no titty nor a pretty face and long hair, you'll make the losers mad. Female characters can be badass, but they also must have said ass.

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[–] RedSnt 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I was thinking of Abby from The Last Of Us Part 2. But yeah, things have changed slightly since then.

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[–] veggibles@lemmy.wtf 53 points 6 days ago (3 children)

gamers: this is a war against right handed people by the sinister lefties

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I etymologically saw what you did there

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is supposed to be a role playing game. I'm not left handed how are they expecting me to be immersed in this game? It totally breaks the realism!

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Talking about things that exist makes me uncomfortable! Stop pushing your ideology on me!

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Those evil left-handers, always pushing their sinister agenda!

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I am pan and I have played a few games where a character is revealed as gay and got the same response from me because it just felt forced. The token gay person. Or, in at least one, most of the characters are gay and it's not strictly about gay stuff. They're just there for brownie points and tend to also be incredibly shallow characters who are only defined as "gay." I don't feel that is representative of anything but some empty corporate suit saying "we want your money, fag."

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Zagreus in Hades is obviously Bi (or Pan) the whole time and no one cared, why, because it's not forced, I think it's kinda expected actually, so it just feels right. Same with Lucifer in the Lucifer TV show.

And sometimes a character is just gay and you find out in notes or something and it's like, neat, and then you move on.

On the other hand you have a random trans character in Hogwarts Legacy. It's a magical world, you have potions and spells to change not only your gender but you can even be a tiny mouse or a massive dragon, what's the point of that?!

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can we stop giving attention to these people? The vast, vast, vast majority of gamers are not piece of shit bigots. There are probably Ike a few thousand of these bigots in total but they spend their entire life online and report on each other as if they are a majority and make a ton of online noise.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ignoring them clearly hasn't worked, because too many who actually pull the levers pay attention regardless.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Gets man bro protagonists in the last 100 games:

Gets 1 female protagonist: WOKE GIRLBOSS BS!

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

One female protagonist that's written exactly like a male and is basically just a skin swap*

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[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Is it actually "gamers" saying this?

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd say a vocal minority do. A common form this takes is resentment over perceived "shoe-horning" of "politics" into games that "leads to bad games".

The thibly-veiled bigotry becomes clear when the shortcomings of the game are attributed primarily to the diversity representation, rather than anything else, with the assumption that it would have been better without it. "The writing is bad because they wanted to make a political statement above all else."

This becomes especially apparent when you consider that those same people would never blame bad writing in a game on making all the characters in a game heterosexual.

Some people are just straight-up haters, no veil necessary.

I can sympathize a little with people who had a romantic expectation for a character that they might have fantasized or self-inserted and feel disappointed or even betrayed by having their expectations subverted, especially if they had a strong attachment, as in franchise characters. But they also need to get over the fact that not everything has to be made for them. 95% of whats out there is already made for them.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ironically, most of the people I hear engaged in gamergate/anti gamergate noise don't actually play games. Maybe they did back in school, but now they'd rather listen to some podcast or like twitter posts for whatever team they chose.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This character is ambidextrous because we just flipped the sprite

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This gamer: chooses a female character so I can stare at her ass the whole time.

On an unrelated note, I am really enjoying Stellar Blade.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

"Or, we could make it a woman"

"Um, ok, wait, we need to think about this"

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

It's breaking my immersion! /s

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

That response is from loud mouths

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 13 points 6 days ago

Some people play games and some people live vicariously thru games. And alot of men in the US have been conditioned to expect to be the victims of violence or social ridicule if they're suspected of being gay. I don't agree with their discomfort but I understand why it happens.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Spoilers ahead, BTW.

I was playing Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and legit didn’t realize there was a romance option with Hans Capon until the cutscene where Henry locked the door, at which point, I was quite startled, and then realized that the dialog options with a heart next to them are romance and not just being a good, supportive friend. I am not gay and did not really want to see that myself, but do applaud the inclusivity. 🙈 I can imagine gay people feel the same having to muddle through the straight romance options in other games. The fact that I wasn’t expecting it shows this is way less common than it should be.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The one thing that bugs me about cyberpunk 2077 is the main story has an unskippable (straight) sex scene, I know they're almost a meme in gaming culture but I'm not here for that kind of content.

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[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Shoving gay characters down our throats!

[–] Noise7@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Alright, but I have yet to see a game character that’s left handed though

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 75 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Just checked in game and he actually does swing with his left. Never noticed until now. Apparently newer games retconned him to be right handed

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 32 points 6 days ago

They changed it because of the Wii controls.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, Link surprised me, he's left handed in most games before BOTW, which is neat.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 6 days ago (5 children)

He is right handed in the Wii games with motion controls for the benefit of the majority of right handed gamers, but left handed everywhere else.

Twilight Princess was crossgen between GameCube and Wii. The two games are mirror images of each other because it made it simpler to port the game than mirroring the character animations alone.

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