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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 121 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Without providing an explanation, the court declined to hear the former British socialite's appeal, which means her 20-year sentence will remain in place barring a presidential pardon.

Ah, we can see where this is going.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"former British socialite" Jesus Christ, they're still entirely too hesitant to apply the available, more suitable language to her. "Former decades-long significant other, confidante, collaborator and best friend to financier sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein. Convicted child abuser Ghislaine Maxwell..." would be more apt, no? She isn't there for fucking tax/wire fraud, take the gloves off FFS.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago

Yep. I'd politely say "proven monster".

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pardon will probably come after the midterms.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I'd bet before.. the orange one is too selfish and short sighted, he'll pardon her before thinking he is saving himself but not think about the repercussions of his party losing seats which will later screw him.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

She needs that pardon while she still has leverage over a sitting president. He's not doing so well, and the midterms are a ways out.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I almost hope he tries pardoning her just so his fans can see his naked corruption.

But she’s also guilty of unfathomable levels of harm, so no, I don’t want any good to come to get.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Lmao. His fans will just make excuses for him as they always do

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

"trump and ghislane were just infiltrating to expose the radical left" or some other half brained response, is what you can expect from maga simps

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

"Former British socialite"

How the hell did they take away her British

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There really doesn't need to be an explanation for this case. It's one asshole who wants her case thrown out, not any kind of constitutional question.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

One of the things this SCOTUS has been doing, if you're watching closely enough, is saving the administration from itself. They are absolutely ideologically on board with much of what's going on, and even the "principled conservatives" think the constitution is some sort of lateral thinking interview puzzle to be decoded by any asshole who thinks he can Kobayashi Maru the thing without actually hacking the code. They're all on board with throwing out stare decisis, even though traditionally that has only been done when it was just blatantly obvious the court was blinded by the prejudices of its day. They're happy to find any place where the current Congress has declined to complain, or where there's some loophole of statute or regulation that lets them expand presidential authority at the expense of the other branches or the executive agencies/departments that have traditionally needed some level of independence. No doubt about it, they're completely fine with a MAGA world.

They are, however, also trying to be the MAGA babysitters for the terrible MAGA children, and they're tapping the brakes every so often when something utterly idiotic lands in their laps, or where (assuming an election happens) the GOP would be fucking themselves if they're ever back in the minority. They're also trying to let Trump sand down the plating on the guardrails without immediately gouging into the base metal underneath, pitted and flimsy as it is. They know that without the last hints of legitimacy, physical control of the means of state violence is the last thing that prevents full-on revolt. It's the same as Ted Cruz half-heartedly sticking up for Kimmel, or Thune not completely killing off the cloture votes for virtual filibusters.

I assume this one was even simpler if the administration itself was not yet prepared to actively push for her to have the conviction overturned, and they may never be since dangling a pardon is probably the best way to keep her in line until the theoretical end of Trump's term. Even if they had pushed, I think this might have been part of the "ten" in the 90-10 split where Trump gets almost whatever awful thing he wants from them.

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Enjoy "committing suicide" in prison, you demon

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

She's in Federal Resort Prison precisely because Trump still sports wood for her. And she's keeping her yap shut. I suspect she'll be fine.

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Please excuse my ignorance but why is that? Genuinely curious

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can only guess. But Trump's made more than a few consolatory statements regarding her arrest and conviction.

I have to assume that she was close with Trump, given how tight he was with Epstein. She very likely either slept with him directly or was critical in facilitating his personal perversions. And as a creepy old man, he still remembers her as a highlight of his youth.

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ahhh I see from the coverage I've heard on this it seemed that people were thinking her appeal was her last chance and if she did go to prison then there's no chance she'd be allowed to live. That she'd be doing all this going after appeals and a presidential pardon with the "if you don't give me this, I'm going to tell the world all I know" angle. I guess maybe she could have done that but they called her bluff and threatened her back and she decided living the rest of her life in a comfy prison was better than death? I dunno, correct me if there's reason not to think that

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That she’d be doing all this going after appeals and a presidential pardon with the “if you don’t give me this, I’m going to tell the world all I know” angle.

I think that may have been what Epstein himself tried back in 2019, with predictable results. Ghislaine's been fully committed to Omertà, by contrast. She didn't see Trump. She didn't see Clinton. She didn't see Gates. She didn't see Noam Chomsky. She didn't see anything.

I guess maybe she could have done that but they called her bluff and threatened her back and she decided living the rest of her life in a comfy prison was better than death? I dunno, correct me if there’s reason not to think that

My money is that she's just sending kissy-face letters to Trump and saying how sad she is, please do something for your old sexy friend.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ghislaine’s been fully committed to Omertà, by contrast.

It helps to have seen what happened to Epstein first. (Likely by Trump.)

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Which part?

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Trump Admin now has a clear path to tell Maxwell what she has to do to get her pardon.

He's probably going to pardon her right before leaving office (if his bloated body doesn't give out on him first) in a blanket pardon of thousands of people just like last time and when asked for comment about it, he'll claim he's never even heard of her and that was just some technicality that she landed in the pile of pardons.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago

Yee fucking haw.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Looking forward to her official statement that President Trump had nothing to do with anything, and in fact he was under-cover exposing Epstein actually. And the only reason he couldn't talk about it is because Crooked Joe made him sign a non-disclosure about it. But really Trump deserves a Nobel Peace prize for his work.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

She couldn't rally the kind of gift money Harlan Crow was splashing out.